2h stab madness

[Teeth]

It just takes five minutes on the duel server to figure out that the 2h stab is too strong. It´s 70% of the attacks the average 2h does. 2h stab compared to polearm stab used to be balanced. Polearm hit fast, but was low range. 2h stab was slower but had long range. Nowadays though the 2h stab can instastab just like the polearm stab can, making it very strong combined with +80 range. Whatever the devs did that made the 2h stab hitboxes so easy, undo it.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

This.

[Kafein]

Also note that pole stabs are broken, because they hit for full damage even when the weapon is already inside the enemy. And 1h stabs are broken because they do not bounce once in a blue moon, they should definetly always bounce.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

My main issue with 1h stabs is that if you chamber a stab due to the turnspeed issue  you'll 50% of the time glance off the guy you're fightings side, then the 2h full str full plate guy will onehit sideswing you.

[Rebelyell]

I am 2h boy, I like to stab a lot, and i agree with that thread

sometimes I stab 3 times in the row like crazymotherfucker

[Smoothrich]

I got used to it and use the 2hand stab a lot now but I don't think its OP compared to the other weapons as they all got a similar buff.

Polearms always had an "instant stab" because it seems like the wind up of the thrust is shorter than the other weapons, and you can definitely facehug stab better with a polearm than with a 2hander.  Polearm thrusts still can rear horses which 2hand cannot, giving it versatility, along with all of the hoplite weapons and pikes giving them an edge over 2handers.

1hand stab is not much different than 2hand stab, gives about much of a reach bonus as the 1hand right swing (45 bonus I think) which makes 100 reach 1handers as long as great swords doing sideswings (only 25 bonus for 2hand sideswing).  Having the benefit of a shield keeps them in line with 2handers.

2handers still glance without a good speed bonus and positioning, I've glanced enough in duels and battle to see the limitations of it.  Its just easier to use while keeping your focus on an enemy instead of having to lolstab.  Still can downblock for a relatively longer stun on the attacker than any other attack.  Honestly not that great for dueling where a chamber or hiltslash will still hit quicker then an easily predictable stab.

Its fine, imo.

[DaveUKR]

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If you manage to block the thrust in the right moment - you have a time for free hit while 2h lolstab abuser is stunned

[Smoothrich]

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If you manage to block the thrust in the right moment - you have a time for free hit while 2h lolstab abuser is stunned

Yes, pretty much this.  Good players can punish stabs pretty easily.  Even shielders can get in quick overheads with little to no room to react.

[Lizard_man]

They do seem a little fast, can't comment on using it though...

[Rebelyell]

because  use that clever thing

[Miwiw]

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If you manage to block the thrust in the right moment - you have a time for free hit while 2h lolstab abuser is stunned

That kills me often.

Because of the stab I am using a German Greatsword. 26 p by default is a lot of damage, and deadly due to speed.

Maybe too overpowered, more than 50% of my attacks are stabs, maybe more than 60% of my dmg is caused by those.

[Rebelyell]

all GS are for lazy peps

[Lizard_man]

because  use that clever thing

That's right, but i'm glad this topic came up. Two handed stabs just seem to come out of nowhere, they definitely need tweaking somewhat...

[tizzango]

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[Leshma]

Also, in comparison to Native 2h'ing, cRPG 2h'ing is shockingly nerfed.

Just like everything else...