What has cRPG come to?

[Riddaren]

It's not only melee infantry who play this game for fun. All do. Even archers and cavalry.
Never forget that. Show them respect and I'm sure you will get some kind of mutual respect in return.

It might be an archer not shooting you while you are defenseless as the last man alive.
It might be a lancer not couch lancing you at spawn.
It might be a 2H not instantly killing you when you lie defenseless on the ground after being dehorsed.

Personally I got a few players in my list of players who show me respect.
Then I have this list of those who cry about lancing being easy mode, telling me I'm a total noob.
It's a bit hard for me to be nice to those.

This game is so full of hate. It's the thing I hate most about it...
If classes would be races you all would be racists.

[Smoothrich]

It's not only melee infantry who play this game for fun. All do. Even archers and cavalry.
Never forget that. Show them respect and I'm sure you will get some kind of mutual respect in return.

It might be an archer not shooting you while you are defenseless as the last man alive.
It might be a lancer not couch lancing you at spawn.
It might be a 2H not instantly killing you when you lie defenseless on the ground after being dehorsed.

Personally I got a few players in my list of players who show me respect.
Then I have this list of those who cry about lancing being easy mode, telling me I'm a total noob.
It's a bit hard for me to be nice to those.

This game is so full of hate. It's the thing I hate most about it...
If classes would be races you all would be racists.

People play cav to be a gigantic dick and ruin the game for everyone else, so do most archers and throwers.  They know how unfun and unskilled it is to die from their class so they laugh about it when they kill top melee players with one hit kills (couches, headshots) while realizing how brokenly OP their class is compared to melee builds.

[Riddaren]

People play cav to be a gigantic dick and ruin the game for everyone else, so do most archers and throwers.  They know how unfun and unskilled it is to die from their class so they laugh about it when they kill top melee players with one hit kills (couches, headshots) while realizing how brokenly OP their class is compared to melee builds.

I tried to be diplomatic. Great job ruining it...
Now everyone knows all who play archers and cavalry do it to upset others and laugh at them.

[Adamar]

Smoothrich, you're describing 2hander tincans perfectly.

[Joker86]

Well said. This is the case and has always been.
Bad players complain. Good players adapt.
The game is balanced around bad players, not the good ones.

This is not the best philosophy. Because "bad players complain" indicates that there is never a good reason to complain, and "good players adapt" indicates that there is never a need to change anything, because you can adapt.

I don't say you are wrong about archers or cav, nor am I supporting a nerf for archers or cav, but I definitely don't like this "Well, *I* do not have any problems with the game so it is fine. If *YOU* have problems it is YOUR fault, because I do fine. You just need to adapt. Like... change your class?" It's a sign of ignorance for me.

[Riddaren]

This is not the best philosophy. Because "bad players complain" indicates that there is never a good reason to complain, and "good players adapt" indicates that there is never a need to change anything, because you can adapt.

I don't say you are wrong about archers or cav, nor am I supporting a nerf for archers or cav, but I definitely don't like this "Well, *I* do not have any problems with the game so it is fine. If *YOU* have problems it is YOUR fault, because I do fine. You just need to adapt. Like... change your class?" It's a sign of ignorance for me.

The case is that most players consider themselves to be good and skilled.
While in reality they are only good at dueling. People lack awareness which is the most important skill to avoid getting killed by archers and cavalry.
But instead of just improving and trying to play smarter they want archery and cavalry nerfed so much that they don't have to think about it.
That's the problem.

[Micah]

If classes would be races you all would be racists.

I lol'd , but there is somewhat true about that ...
Sad but true that  this polarisation in playerbase has deep roots and i dont see that there will grow a respectfull atmosphere out of this one day.
New players that join the game find that its normality to hate here. Its not the best reference for the community =(

[bilwit]

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[Joker86]

The case is that most players consider themselves to be good and skilled.
While in reality they are only good at dueling. People lack awareness which is the most important skill to avoid getting killed by archers and cavalry.

Agree 100%

But instead of just improving and trying to play smarter they want archery and cavalry nerfed so much that they don't have to think about it.
That's the problem.

Usually I'd agree to that part, too. But if the percentage of cavalry and/or ranged becomes too high, it becomes increasingly difficult to stay fully aware. To discuss the matter properly, we must first clarify IF there are too many cavs and/or archers on the servers or not. Otherwise we can not really argue, because we don't know if the complainers are only making drama or if they have a point there.

[Adamar]

Im back from EU4 and saw nothing unusual there. It was probably just the casual(melee) rich players who went on vacation.

[Spook Island]

I was on NA battle a little while ago and at least 65% of the game was ranged or cav oriented.  That's too high for my taste.  It doesn't help that a lot of maps are geared toward that style of gameplay.

[DrTaco]

People play cav to be a gigantic dick and ruin the game for everyone else, so do most archers and throwers.  They know how unfun and unskilled it is to die from their class so they laugh about it when they kill top melee players with one hit kills (couches, headshots) while realizing how brokenly OP their class is compared to melee builds.

...What?

[Havoco]

People play cav to be a gigantic dick and ruin the game for everyone else, so do most archers and throwers.  They know how unfun and unskilled it is to die from their class so they laugh about it when they kill top melee players with one hit kills (couches, headshots) while realizing how brokenly OP their class is compared to melee builds.

So true, the best part is when the melee get fed up with it and buy an Xbow and bolts, then run into an open area to reload, get shot, then stand still so they can get shot again.

[Yachdiel]

The era of cookie cutter builds, heirloom epidemic, and less than enjoyably playstyles

[Vibe]

More like the era of ranged fucking everywhere. Yesterday I played and the last people alive were always ranged, either archers, xbow or even throwers. Doesn't surprise me, as over half of the players were ranged anyway.