What has cRPG come to?

[CrazyCracka420]

Well he does have a point you do happen to be a complete tard 

You've never once rebutted anything I've said with any intelligence or semblance of an argument (even one I've disagreed with).  You just -1 my posts and say how retarded I am and that I'm a shit poster.

put some substance behind your rebuttal.  Why am I a complete tard?  What opinions do you disagree with?  Why do you disagree with them?  You're much more of a shit poster than I am.

[Tears of Destiny]

Arguing with Tzar is a sure way to lose sanity.

[Rhekimos]

Out of sheer curiosity, and as a complete aside to this entire conversation, what is cav's weakness?

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[Falka]

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They have to sacrifice some Strength or Agility for the riding points (unless they substitute athletics for riding).

They have to pay high repair costs for the horse (and lance, if they use one).

They are outreached by longer polearms and occasionally, greatswords.

The horse can be reared by polearms over 140 length, leaving the horse open to 2 or 3 easy hits. Even more if caught in a group.

They are highly susceptible to ranged. Large, easy to lead due to predictable movement, etc.

If the horse dies, the rider can be hit around 2 or 3 times while getting up off the ground (unless he sinks into the ground or he teleports somewhere, damn bug).

Could probably think of more, too lazy to at the moment.

It's so fucking retarded in so many ways I just don't know what to say 

[Spook Island]

I don't think anybody is really buying that cav weakness typeup.

[Rhalzo]

I don't think anybody is really buying that cav weakness typeup.

Shhhh. You're supposed to be dead, remember?

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

[Falka]

[Tzar]

[Falka]

France beats US, no contest 

3:05 & 3:20 & 4:06 No need to thank me.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Good cav can kill anyone that's aware of them, with probably the only exception being pikemen a my old friendcher on a ruin who is 100% unreachable and will stay there in his my old friendcher group shooting everyone being unreachable until the very end of the round, who are as bad as roofcampers.

Fixed

[Corsair831]

Don't equip a shield then.  Protect your own ranged who can counter the enemy archers.  Don't put yourself in a position to be flanked or shot from enemy ranged.  Get behind your own shielders.  There's lots of tactics you can use to counter archers without resorting to the "stop telling me to pick up a shield" argument.  Learn some fucking tactics and use some teamwork.  You choose your build, and while it may be strong versus some classes, it's going to be naturally weak to others. 

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Please lock the thread already...

Please read my signature, over and over until the obvious sets in for you.  If you need some help with in game tactics I'd be more than willing to spend my free time giving you QQ'ers an education.

what this guy said ^

[a_bear_irl]

i feel like this issue is divided into powergamers vs play-for-fun, yes you can counter ranged and yes you can counter cav and no it's not fun to do either, if your post is along the lines of "get a shield or a pike", don't post it because it's gonna be a bad post

[San]

I've probably killed more archers on my 18/21 1h no shield in the last several days than I have in weeks the time on my 24/15 shielder main when I am on foot.

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But probably die 3x more to ranged to boot. Good trade, imo.

[Riddaren]

ranged and cavalry are the only things that keep a game sense element of skill to the game as an infantry player.

remove them and invite the noob fest.

People should have to become more skilled at the game, the game should not work around people's lack of skill. that has always been crpg's failing. Every time a noob does not know how to counter archers, they nerf them. Every time a noob does not know how to block, they buff armour. Every time a noob does not know how to lance, they buff horsebump damage. Crpg needs more skill and less noob-buffs, please stop inviting them to add more.

Well said. This is the case and has always been.
Bad players complain. Good players adapt.
The game is balanced around bad players, not the good ones.