Giev full wipe now!

[Mlekce]

We all know that, but I ain't going to do the same shit for 2nd time. They can wipe it when they shut it down.

I get it what you say i hate that too,but this is duing you a favor. You would just stop playing this so much,you will not be pissed off because you loosed multi,you would not grind gens again,you would not care too much for looms...
You would actualy play this mod and enjoy it because you would not care abbout that.
I personaly can't go trough 11 gens again.
So you play,if someone get you realy angly you could easily quit and go and play something else or do something in real life. It would help me to study.

[Peasant_Woman]

I already don't care about looms. They are a nice incentive to actually retire though... Instead of pushing for level 35+

It lowers the skill cap more when people don't retire... Extra skill points and wpf trump looms every time.

[Paniolo808]

Do it. I would say good riddance to the people who leave, it'd be neat to see who the new 'top players' would be. Would the present supposed elites climb back to the top without their loom crutch? I'd like to see how the over 31 level crowd would interact with people when they don't have a stat/point advantage.

[Mlekce]

If the mod is temporary, like you say, why wipe and start over? 
Live it up and collect as many looms as you can before its through!


And sorry to say it, wipers (yeah that's what you're called now) but you are being out-voted by a good margin.

And the point of having that looms is? It is just waiste of life.
i currently have 4 mw,i just need helmet +3 and i will stop retiring. i dont need more then 5-6 mw items at all. Nobody do.
I think that now focus will be on strategus,crpg will get status what strat have now. It will not be main thing like it is now.

[Bobthehero]

Do it. I would say good riddance to the people who leave, it'd be neat to see who the new 'top players' would be. Would the present supposed elites climb back to the top without their loom crutch? I'd like to see how the over 31 level crowd would interact with people when they don't have a stat/point advantage.

They'd kick their teeth in regardless of heirlooms.

Incidentally, you can go fuck yourself. Heirlooms are not what they used to be, its not a real crutch.

[_Tak_]

Yeah, if you really want a wipe it's not hard to press the "delete" button on your char page, otherwise stfu and enjoy the game, obviously people who is below 20 gens won't know how hard it is to grind, some people take even more than a month to just reach another gen, there is already max level 20 server out there for lower levels, go fuck yourself

[Lichen]

it'd be neat to see who the new 'top players' would be.

Same as the old ones.

Would the present supposed elites climb back to the top without their loom crutch?

Yes.

What to complain about then?

[Leshma]

Next wednesday.

It's from reliable source.

[Corwin]

And sorry to say it, wipers (yeah that's what you're called now) but you are being out-voted by a good margin.

Actually, whiners, that's not true. There are atm 67 people who voted for some sort of wipe, while there are 55 of you grinders who are afraid of wipe. It is just that you are louder and whining more.

And that thing about gen 20 is utter nonsense, Teeth. Just browse through this topic and you will see that there are lot of people with different gens and rather successful in trading who are supporting wipe.  I'll repeat, gen 10 here, almost 2 years of playing, 15 loom points in equipment, another 6 at a friend atm (not Panos ), and I am supporting full wipe. There are many others.

And to clarify one thing, people that support total wipe (and I think I can speak for at least 6-7 of them) are not doing so because they need stop playing and they can't, like some compulsive cRPGists we have here. The reason for wipe is to stop the grinding fest this game has become for so many, to equalize chances for everyone and especially for new players and to show Garison that there is more to life than loom points.   And if you say that the skills are the most important factor, I agree. But that is actually an argument IN FAVOR of wipe, not the opposite. Cause if you are good, you will stay good without triple loomed equipment and weapons.

[Miwiw]

Reading through the thread, devs had a nice evening with some beer. Enjoyable to read.

[Lichen]

The reason for wipe is to stop the grinding fest this game has become for so many, to equalize chances for everyone and especially for new players

Are devs going to ensure we all have the exact same PC's and pings? Cause you know we gotta have things 'equal'. Is this a console game?

[Leshma]

Unbanning Panos would attract more players than any wipe.

[Angantyr]

I love how all these people with 20+ gens fully agree with a wipe and then think that them having a lot of gens makes their support for a wipe significant. On the contrary. Them having 20+ gens means that they have a grind mentality and that they will be the first ones to have full looms again after a wipe, because they don't care about retiring and grinding their way back up. 20 generations would've killed me.

It's us 6-12 generations, who are finally done with getting the looms they needed and immediately stopped retiring, because they hate grinding, that are the ones that will be fucked over by such a wipe.

I very much agree with this. Grinding equals retarded gameplay in my book the absence of which have always attracted me to WB MP.

The added feeling of ownership for a loomed item and a slight feeling of character progression player skill aside are not bad for the game though, but the grind should definitely not be extended beyond what it already is (which is already a tad too much, imo).

[The_Bloody_Nine]

And to clarify one thing, people that support total wipe (and I think I can speak for at least 6-7 of them) are not doing so because they need stop playing and they can't, like some compulsive cRPGists we have here. The reason for wipe is to stop the grinding fest this game has become for so many, to equalize chances for everyone and especially for new players and to show Garison that there is more to life than loom points.   And if you say that the skills are the most important factor, I agree. But that is actually an argument IN FAVOR of wipe, not the opposite. Cause if you are good, you will stay good without triple loomed equipment and weapons.

It doesn't make any sense without getting rid of retiring and heirlooms. Grinding fest would start from scratch, what for?

[ThePoopy]

this thread is depressing