Giev full wipe now!

[MrShine]

Actually, whiners, that's not true. There are atm 67 people who voted for some sort of wipe, while there are 55 of you grinders who are afraid of wipe. It is just that you are louder and whining more.

And that thing about gen 20 is utter nonsense, Teeth. Just browse through this topic and you will see that there are lot of people with different gens and rather successful in trading who are supporting wipe.  I'll repeat, gen 10 here, almost 2 years of playing, 15 loom points in equipment, another 6 at a friend atm (not Panos ), and I am supporting full wipe. There are many others.

And to clarify one thing, people that support total wipe (and I think I can speak for at least 6-7 of them) are not doing so because they need stop playing and they can't, like some compulsive cRPGists we have here. The reason for wipe is to stop the grinding fest this game has become for so many, to equalize chances for everyone and especially for new players and to show Garison that there is more to life than loom points.   And if you say that the skills are the most important factor, I agree. But that is actually an argument IN FAVOR of wipe, not the opposite. Cause if you are good, you will stay good without triple loomed equipment and weapons.

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[IR_Kuoin]

A loom does not make a man.

[Tiarna]

i'm started play about 1 month ago, and crpg is really one of the best game i've played in the last years.. BUT

i hate full loomed toon.. that not take damage..
i hate ultra fast 2handers/pole
i hate this huge gear difference between new player and loomgrinder
i hate too the loom grinder that in every match spam chat and play naked for 15-20 lvl using a torch

then for me wipe and restart all, with new system, new gamemode (ctf and other) is a good choice:)

[Bobthehero]

Looms don't make you invincible.

[Lichen]

Yes, wipe. Whiny players need a chance to finally realize how bad they still are when they get smashed by good players with unloomed gear. I look forward to the new 'nerf cudgel' topics.

[Bobthehero]

That would be something nice to have tho, a no loom week, just to show that looms are very little effect.

[Damsel]

Hi bob... you are an angry man.. i miss u

[MrShine]

If people are itching so much to have peasant wars, why don't they just go to the level 20 server?

[Gurnisson]

My thoughts on a wipe:

If one removes the grind element of the game, then I might like it. Be able to balance the game with no heirlooming would probably make the game better overall, and the advantages of veterans removed would be better for new players, I would guess. If it's back to scratch with level grinding and heirloom grinding again I'll lose my interest in this mod and move on to pastures new.

[Vibe]

My thoughts on a wipe:

If one removes the grind element of the game, then I might like it. Be able to balance the game with no heirlooming would probably make the game better overall, and the advantages of veterans removed would be better for new players, I would guess. If it's back to scratch with level grinding and heirloom grinding again I'll lose my interest in this mod and move on to pastures new.

One of the problems with removing grind is actually people losing interest fast. If one can achieve the end (all looms, max level?) fast, then I'm sure people will play less, as there won't be any additional incentive to play.

Like it or not, I think it's safe to say that most players play because they want to level up and get new gear. (the good old leveling/gearing up formula)
I can also say that I'm not really one of those players since I play mostly for fun and it's rarely "achieving new level" or "getting new looms" that keeps me playing, but then again I'm not even playing much for the last few months - kind of confirms my theory as well?

Also awesome avatar pic Gurni, I can't stop looking at it

[Gnjus]

Mod is in beta phase and as we all know it: beta's usually get wiped more often then once in 2 years. When they make it version 1.0 then the wipes should stop. 

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Seriously people - stop posting nonsense about generations, looms and stuff like that, where are all those balance screamers ? Last wipe was 2 years ago, just think of all that has changed in the meantime (number of new players, items, game mechanics, strat mechanics, etc, etc), its virtually impossible to get anywhere near "balance" with so many changes in such a long time period without giving out a fresh start. It's common sense, nothing else and whether you wanna accept it or not: there's a little grinder in all of us, you don't waste your real life time playing a game with no cause or purpose at all, you wanna have fun (naturally) but you also want to progress, get better, see the so called "end-game content" (in this case - more expensive items, big strat battles, etc, where you can distinguish yourself), just look at yourself in the mirror and say: "I'm not a grinder, not a 1 god damn percent" if you can.

[[ptx]]

What i'd love is if Heirlooms were to lose all their stat bonuses and would only get some sort of fancier model, like in the final boss's heirloom pack. That'd solve the problem (let's face it, heirlooms added a grind element, whilst screwing over balance) without screwing over high gens too much, wouldn't it?

[Rhygar666]

u no touch my looms
@fasader dont you think about it.

no complete wipe, just make a respecc nerf like last time.

[Molly]

What i'd love is if Heirlooms were to lose all their stat bonuses and would only get some sort of fancier model, like in the final boss's heirloom pack. That'd solve the problem (let's face it, heirlooms added a grind element, whilst screwing over balance) without screwing over high gens too much, wouldn't it?

Never chose my armor or my weapon cuz of the stats anyway but cuz of their looks. Adding the heirloom package but removing the stats bonus sounds just fine to me.

And I will keep repeating myself:

Full wipe except generations, removal of the heirloom system/stats bonus on heirloom.

[Dooz]

I feel like a wipe would be the only way to get me to stop playing this god damn game. Do it. It needs to end.