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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #75 on: July 19, 2012, 10:01:57 pm »
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That is just one example....this is covering all modified files, not just his one specific example...

Imagine the people who use high settings for everything AND have slightly invisible walls/bushes JUST FOR THE ADVANTAGE. Don't say no one does that, because bullshit they don't.

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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2012, 10:03:45 pm »
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Why would he even play a game that looks so terrible for him? Seems pointless to me, like playing Pacman to the sound of a medieval battle. Also I am amazed that anyone has a PC so shit it cant run this crappy old game.

Maybe he just doesn't care about pretty graphics that much, and instead about the actual gameplay? Something that's often forgotten with gaming these days.

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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2012, 10:04:26 pm »
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I voted no. The game looks so shit on those screens that it is possible to ruin the eyes. Not even that is punishment enough but at the same time he doesnt get a real advantage by that.
Someone with highest graphics who does not lag can still play better than that.

you haven't seen the removed screenshots where you could easily spot anyone lurking behind the bushes, trees etc, regardless of the distance.
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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2012, 10:06:38 pm »
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That is just one example....this is covering all modified files, not just his one specific example...

Imagine the people who use high settings for everything AND have slightly invisible walls/bushes JUST FOR THE ADVANTAGE. Don't say no one does that, because bullshit they don't.

If this is possible, it would indeed be a problem. Wallhacking provides an unfair advantage.

This is about someone who just tries to play the game with a lower than average computer, however.

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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #79 on: July 19, 2012, 10:10:58 pm »
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This is about someone who just tries to play the game with a lower than average computer, however.

this is not only about someone who tries to play the game innocently on a crap pc but also someone who turns it to his advantage by editing graphics beyond the game's limit. he already confessed that he has x-ray benefits and those screenshots were proving it.
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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #80 on: July 19, 2012, 10:12:09 pm »
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If this is possible, it would indeed be a problem. Wallhacking provides an unfair advantage.

This is about someone who just tries to play the game with a lower than average computer, however.


No it isn't. Read the first sentence of the original post. It is about modifying files to gain an advantage over other players. The example turns things controversial by changing it from "advantages" to a some sympathetic case involving this guy with the worst graphics since pong.

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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #81 on: July 19, 2012, 10:18:48 pm »
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really? you played the racism card?

you'r even a bigger douche then i thought

I am not very good at arguing with people. Well in my heart is feels like he is one of those people who bully me in real life of racism, and it hurts alot

You can (not saying you do it) make bushes and trees 100% seethrough, and I'm pretty sure it'd also be easy to make walls and the like 50% seethrough.

Zlisch removing them will also remove other objects, it's like some objects are linking with each other, if you change the texture of one of them, some others will also affected by this and as a horse rider i often ride my horse into invisible barriers and die because of it, will never do it again. I don't want to repeat this but i don't think it is possible to do whatever so called x-ray in warband because i honestly don't think the game engine will let the modders to do that. Since i am not an expert coder like cmp i have no idea to do so.

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Why would he even play a game that looks so terrible for him? Seems pointless to me, like playing Pacman to the sound of a medieval battle. Also I am amazed that anyone has a PC so shit it cant run this crappy old game.

When i first play warband on multiplayer last year cRPG was the first mod i played, and if i could choose what is the best game in the world i would vote for warband since i also make mods.

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i do this not only because you had slandered me pathetically in the past but also you do this everytime when a person makes mistake. whenever i login to forums, i see you bitching about random noobs in ban section. but in reality you are the biggest jerk lurking around, leeching & suicide charging and now editing objects. i didn't say that you remove items, but i'm sure it's pretty easy for a modder to flatten rocks, objects, hays etc. and i guess it's not that hard to equal all fog effects to the lightest one. i don't know why you've removed all the screenshots you had posted in ban section and added some creepy ones here, they had enough evidences on what we are talking about, but removing them won't change the fact that you've confessed the abuse. i can tolerate griefing, flaming, even teamkilling but this is not acceptable, especially if it's done by an hypocrite who enjoys accusing people and slandering their reputations.

yes he did, plus he accused me for bullying poor people lawl

Well I only been saying few things on unban forum and yet i have not got any sort of warning for spamming. I been playing cRPG with the edited graphics since i play on my laptop, been using that sort of graphics in normal warband / on other mods. If I did make you feels like i am a jerk then as i said before most of the time i post without thinking. If you are angry at me like Zlisch then i apologize to you, i am not a good communicator nor know how to use effective communication. Since I clear the matter with ABUUZER i think it would be good to remove all the screenshots since the case is closed. Yes you said attacking enemy spawn = suicide charging and we have a huge argument on there. I should have say sorry to you long time ago when i made the ban request, good memory you have indeed. But I just can't take it when i am about to argue with people since i also have troubles with that in real life. Would be great if we could make peace within each other and you have my word sir

Even so, apparently with certain shadow settings you will see where the edges of walls
Once you remove the walls, they will become indivisible and there will be no shadows at all


No it isn't. Read the first sentence of the original post. It is about modifying files to gain an advantage over other players. The example turns things controversial by changing it from "advantages" to a some sympathetic case involving this guy with the worst graphics since pong.

Please stop with this bullshit with X-ray, you have no experience in warband's modding, there is no such thing as x-ray and I see this as a joke, modifying the files in game does not work if you are not one of the dev in my knowledge, dev is pretty much the only people who can actually cheat with this mod (Not talking about auto blocks), i have said this many times and will not repeat again, i have not use any thing like wall-hack, its actually funny that you people really think that such thing can exist in warband, so far in my knowledge the hack that exist in multiplayer is the auto block, the dev in cRPG is one of expert of experts unlike me who is just a beginner to start modding. Start to become a modder, i doubt you will ever managed to be the first guy who invent so called wall-hack. Bushes and hays are link with other objects, if they are removed others will get removed also, and i hate being run into invisible barriers without knowing/ seeing where they are
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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #82 on: July 19, 2012, 10:19:34 pm »
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this is not only about someone who tries to play the game innocently on a crap pc but also someone who turns it to his advantage by editing graphics beyond the game's limit. he already confessed that he has x-ray benefits and those screenshots were proving it.

I was under the impression that he couldn't remove bushes without also removing walls and stones. If he does that, it's a clear advantage.


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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #83 on: July 19, 2012, 10:23:32 pm »
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I was under the impression that he couldn't remove bushes without also removing walls and stones. If he does that, it's a clear advantage.

Even so, apparently with certain shadow settings you will see where the edges of walls would be anyway so its not like you would stumble around unable to maneuvre. If someone removes walls its not hard to imagine someone coming up with a hack to make it clear where the wall should be while it still be an effective wallhack.

Cav being able to react to players positions before even coming around corners would be a huge advantage. Also how many times have you been swarmed by players when you underestimated the numbers?

Theoretically speaking ofc, I'm not talking about the OP
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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2012, 10:25:31 pm »
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Even so, apparently with certain shadow settings you will see where the edges of walls would be anyway so its not like you would stumble around unable to maneuvre. If someone removes walls its not hard to imagine someone coming up with a hack to make it clear where the wall should be while it still be an effective wallhack.

Cav being able to react to players positions before even coming around corners would be a huge advantage.

Theoretically speaking ofc, I'm not talking about the OP

Having a wallhack would be cheating, I agree. And very beneficial to any class.

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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #85 on: July 19, 2012, 10:32:01 pm »
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You don't have to remove things completely, I'm sure it is POSSIBLE to increase/decrease the TRANSPARENCY of a texture. Hence, X-ray vision.

I'm not saying you do it Alex. This isn't really about you. You were just one example out of many. Just because you don't know how to do something, doesn't mean it can't be done. I don't know why you feel it is necessary to try and tell me what I do or don't know. It doesn't matter what I do or don't know. What matters is that people CAN and DO cheat using modified files. Period. That's what the topic is about folks, not Alex, not the difficulty in modifying files, not the eye-punishing graphics caused by it, but the idea of modifying files to gain an advantage over other players.

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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #86 on: July 19, 2012, 10:39:41 pm »
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All i got out from this is that there's too many CRPG players using COD avatars.
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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #87 on: July 19, 2012, 10:41:40 pm »
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You don't have to remove things completely, I'm sure it is POSSIBLE to increase/decrease the TRANSPARENCY of a texture.

A good multiplayer engine wouldn't allow that. Just as easy it is to change the textures, it's easy for the game engine to remove transparency.

I'd be interested to hear from a modder about this, though.

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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #88 on: July 19, 2012, 10:42:56 pm »
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You don't have to remove things completely, I'm sure it is POSSIBLE to increase/decrease the TRANSPARENCY of a texture. Hence, X-ray vision.

I'm not saying you do it Alex. This isn't really about you. You were just one example out of many. Just because you don't know how to do something, doesn't mean it can't be done. I don't know why you feel it is necessary to try and tell me what I do or don't know. It doesn't matter what I do or don't know. What matters is that people CAN and DO cheat using modified files. Period. That's what the topic is about folks, not Alex, not the difficulty in modifying files, not the eye-punishing graphics caused by it, but the idea of modifying files to gain an advantage over other players.

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Re: Editing game graphics to get upper hand in-game!!!
« Reply #89 on: July 19, 2012, 10:49:08 pm »
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I personally voted that it should be against the rules (punishable). Not permabanned on first offense.

Maybe the devs can make a crpg-light version which minimizes textures and whatever else players might need for ultimate performance WITHOUT giving them any advantage what so ever (other than performance). I would be fine with the developers doing such a thing, however, I am not fine with any player deciding it is okay to modify files to gain unfair advantages.

Also Contra, a good multiplayer engine wouldn't allow autoblock or aimbots or anything either. Crpg can only ban those who use it, not make it impossible for people to use it. I see no reason that people wouldn't find a way to modify files for other advantages.