New stat for horses - > Hit speed

[Frell]

(Im not an archer, and I havent been one for almost a year)

If players are going to be stumbled when hit by arrows, horses should be slowed by 20% for 1-2(depending on horse) seconds when hit by an arrow.

Horses with no armor are faster, but are hurt more by arrows and should be slowed for 2 seconds after being hit

Chain horses would be slowed for 1 second.

Horses with heavy chain/plates would be slowed for  half a second.

or

lsumpter 1.8 seconds
rouncey and steppe 1.4 seconds
desert to destrier 1 second
warhorse to catapraht 0.8 seconds
charger and above 0.5 seconds

The stat would simply be "Hit speed: # of seconds)



Its stupid how the only thing that can slow down cav is their own retarded steering. Realistically the horse has eyes too, and wouldn't run into a wall. But it would be slowed.


Incoming cav QQ

[Miwiw]

Sounds fine. +1

Oh, I hear lancers already crying about HAs, "DONT SHOOT MY HORSE"

[polkafranzi]

Incoming cav QQ

Really? Another QQ nerf cav thread by an archer? When will this stop.

[Frell]

Oh im not an archer. Im 2h. But everytime im hit with an arrow im forced to stumble, but when my teammates shoot horses the horses don't stumble. Its stupid.

Miw is fine with the idea, and hes a horse archer.

[Miwiw]

No, I'm foot archer now. 

However there are so many threads about nerf of archers, there need to be more about cav.

[polkafranzi]

Oh im not an archer. Im 2h. But everytime im hit with an arrow im forced to stumble, but when my teammates shoot horses the horses don't stumble. Its stupid.

Miw is fine with the idea, and hes a horse archer.

He seems pretty happy to participate in every nerf cav thread, therefore all his arguments are invalid 

However there are so many threads about nerf of archers

Archery has the most nerf threads because it's still pretty retarded yet those who play archer are the hardest QQers.  Circle of hate continues.

[Frell]

Im not asking to buff archer damage or nerf cav health or anything. Rather, this is a negotiation that finally draws the line between horse armor vs horse speed. Arrows hurt. End of.

Archers are a support role, they aren't necessarily there to kill. So let them support the team by slowing down the horse for a second so we can get a chance to kill them.

[polkafranzi]

I'd rather see cRPG going in the direction of buffs all around, enough of this slowing everything down shit.

My suggestion to your thread is:

Remove the arrowstun against infantry and give archers better melee options - I stand by that one since a long time but it never gets added.

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Oh and by the way, the rider of a horse gets the same stun if he gets hit whilst mounted 

[Frell]

The horse is an animal though. Games are about balance.

If you want to go real fast, you need less armor.

Less armor means arrows hurt more.

Pick.

[polkafranzi]

The horse is an animal though. Games are about balance.

If you want to go real fast, you need less armor.

Less armor means arrows hurt more.

Pick.

Personally i'm a big fan of realism over balance, strategy over arcade etc etc, if you want balance go play chess or ludo with a friend.

Neither.

Game will never be balanced as one class will always find a way to adapt and become OP.  And then you know what happens...

[Son Of Odin]

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Oh and by the way, the rider of a horse gets the same stun if he gets hit whilst mounted 

Yeah OP ever played cav and trying to hit someone just to be hit himself by an arrow which cancels his attack and that annoying 2h pro 1337 skillz superhero you were about to gank lolstabs you to death?

[polkafranzi]

Yeah OP ever played cav and trying to hit someone just to be hit himself by an arrow which cancels his attack and that annoying 2h pro 1337 skillz superhero you were about to gank lolstabs you to death?

LOL

This.

The lance just "dissapears" until you get over the stun.

[Frell]

Personally i'm a big fan of realism over balance, strategy over arcade etc etc, if you want balance go play chess or ludo with a friend.

Neither.

Game will never be balanced as one class will always find a way to adapt and become OP.  And then you know what happens...

Ok realism it is. The horse is still going to be in a shit ton of pain.

Im a fan of both. I actually want realism in this game more.

[Leshma]

I'm against this. Polestun has been removed, arrow stun should be as well (in return buff archers armor and melee abilities). Only stun that makes sense is stun made by melee weapon because it's necessary to keep spammers in check.

There are other ways how to balance horses (check my posts in nerf bump damage topic). I also disagree that greatswords should be swiss-knives like they are now. Greatswords weren't used against cavalry like they are in this mod (at least I'm abusing them all the time, not my fault other don't know how).

[polkafranzi]

I'm against this. polestagger has been removed, arrow stun should be as well (in return buff archers armor and melee abilities).

+1
You talk sense.

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Unlike in the other thread