Possible new feature: different hilt/blade damage

[Jarlek]

umm.. i cant see how this change would affect or even prevent facehugging with short weapons at all

Removing facehugging from a 70 or less reach weapon would be retarded. That's pretty much how you have to fight with them. it's facehugging with weapons that are really long that's gonna be dealt with.

[Christo]

I can see it just now:

That people will rage so much because of the shaft hits are blunt, this leads to knockdown especially with heavier weapons.

 

[cmp]

Weapons must be specifically flagged to be able to knock down.

[Christo]

=(

Ruin my fun, will ya cmp.

[Tzar]

Question for Dear leader CMP.

While all of this sounds very interesting n stuff how do you plan for when everyone will be using short 1h´s and 2h assault weapons since any weapon with that hilt dmg nerf will become obsolete once every1 gotten used to the change an facehug their opponents :

Since u said you where to implement some sorta of punishment for backpedaling it wont take long before those weapons affected by this change will become complete trash or more or less support pike/spears with swing able attacks 

Anyways you did say you would take your time to make sure some weapons and classes didn't become obsolete hope you figure it out lol

EDIT: also what will happen after you change the entire game will people switch to ranged like they done in the past once u taken out or slowed down melee combat : or will they go cav it has happened before dont want more ranged or cav then we all rdy have on eu1 tbh

[oprah_winfrey]

Question for Dear leader CMP.

While all of this sounds very interesting n stuff how do you plan for when everyone will be using short 1h´s and 2h assault weapons since any weapon with that hilt dmg nerf will become obsolete once every1 gotten used to the change an facehug their opponents :

Since u said you where to implement some sorta of punishment for backpedaling it wont take long before those weapons affected by this change will become complete trash or more or less support pike/spears with swing able attacks 

Anyways you did say you would take your time to make sure some weapons and classes didn't become obsolete hope you figure it out lol

EDIT: also what will happen after you change the entire game will people switch to ranged like they done in the past once u taken out or slowed down melee combat : or will they go cav it has happened before dont want more ranged or cav then we all rdy have on eu1 tbh

He was talking about increasing the range of kicks to deter face hugging.

[bruce]

Shielders and hammers 2012 And polearms to kill cavalry and in general support. And normal twohanders for general fighting, bit more vulnerable to facehugging but can stab horses and such.

It isn't so bad when you think about it.

[Kafein]

I can see it just now:

That people will rage so much because of the shaft hits are blunt, this leads to knockdown especially with heavier weapons.

 

Anyway, realistic damage values for weapon shafts would be about that of a quarterstaff.


Facehugging is weak enough as it is, except maybe with kinngrim's build. Although last time I fought him I got him with kicks, and that pretty much works for all people with small weapons.

[Joker86]

Anyway, realistic damage values for weapon shafts would be about that of a quarterstaff.

I would go even lower than that, not for the sake of reality but just for the sake of balance. Because I don't think that all polearms should be basically (slower) quarter staffs with an additional dangerous head. Quarterstaff has 19 damage, staff 16, club 17, cudgel 15, wooden stick 14 and practice dagger 9. So let's say 12-13 is perfectly enough. With most STR based/favourising builds in this community you should still be able to inflict enough damage to at least stun the enemy.

If polearms are meant to be real support weapons, then force the players to handle them like that. Otherwise, if there is another option, they won't. Dealing "acceptable" damage with the shaft is wrong, you should always want to hit with the head of your weapon.

[Christo]

Not all Polearms are support weapons, Joker.

This would just nerf polearmers to oblivion once more, it needs to be done differently.

I don't want to see even more kuyak wearing 2h über pikesword heroes.

[matt2507]

is what we will not be killed instantly by the handle of a lance lying ?

because what does that can be ridiculous..

[moorane]

Although it's theoretically awesome, I voted no because I think it's very hard to find the right balance...

[TaM1PiCh]

cmp plz

+1

[Kafein]

Not all Polearms are support weapons, Joker.

This would just nerf polearmers to oblivion once more, it needs to be done differently.

I don't want to see even more kuyak wearing 2h über pikesword heroes.

1. Slow down both top tier 2h and top tier polearms
2. Increase server speed to fast or fastest
3. ???
4. Game fixed

[cmp]

1. Slow down both top tier 2h and top tier polearms
2. Increase server speed to fast or fastest
3. ???
4. Game broken

Fixed.