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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2012, 03:09:53 am »
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One patch to nerf them all

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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2012, 03:25:27 am »
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How to make cRPG fun again in 3 easy steps.

1. Buff everything.

2. Nerf archery.

3. Let the good times roll.
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2012, 03:27:04 am »
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How to make cRPG fun again in 3 easy steps.

1. Buff everything.

2. Nerf archery.

3. Let the good times roll.
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2012, 03:28:31 am »
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Archery damage is extremely random (or it's maybe just the armor soak that's extremely random)

Sometimes an archer only takes 1/5 or 1/4 of my health, sometimes up to 80 %. I had Cup1d two-shot me with a horn bow when I had 50 armor, 27 str and 9 IF without positive speed bonus or height advantage. That's ridiculous, but I also had archers dealing 1/10 in the same gen, also ridiculous.

On my horse xbow alt I've had rus bows one-shot my arabian to the ass while running away and I've also been running around with 4 arrows in it.

If the damage was less random, I would be more happy. You never know if you can afford to take an arrow or not now, sometimes the damage is pitiful, sometimes over the top :?

That is not random, a projectile damage is highly influenced by the vertical angle beetween you and you target. The higher and the closest the shooter is the more damage you take => i often one shot low armored people with my xbow when i'm in a high position.
Also as the armor reduce damage by a flat amount a 20% increased raw damage (behind few meter higher)  can result in double damage deal.

Aslo : Of course if you are moving toward the projectile you take a lot more.

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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2012, 05:09:48 pm »
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Stop whining, the archer probably had 7 PD and a longbow

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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2012, 05:21:10 pm »
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Stop whining, the archer probably had 7 PD and a longbow

so its ok for an archer with 7pd to 2 hit a semi-tank build? NERF THAT SHIT!!!
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2012, 05:23:01 pm »
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so its ok for an archer with 7pd to 2 hit a semi-tank build? NERF THAT SHIT!!!
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2012, 05:23:47 pm »
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Stop whining, the archer probably had 7 PD and a longbow

No, the archer didnt, because that is a crossbow bolt.

Also, I kinda like the randomness, at heavy armours, 55 and above, it should be more random, NEVER more dmg, Im not suggesting buff range, but sometimes have arrows do nothing, just a stun, cause IRL: Arrows sometimes penetrate a weak spot, sometimes bounce of plate, sometimes they knock ppl down.

But what is REALLY needed is a massive increase in arrow weights, or a debuff to athletics when you stat powerdraw, or a MUCH bigger slowdown to your character when you draw a bow, so no more kiteing. Archery isnt the problem, ranged NEED to be able to do dmg, just as melee can, but they should NOT be able to do it from point blank and run away with no risk. IRL I cannot knock an arrow while I sprint, or rather, I can, but it takes a long time, is fiddly, and prone to failure, because an improper knocked arrow, when you fire, will not fire, youll just destroy your left arm and be left where you started, with an arrow in one hand and the bow in the other, or sometimes, with a bow in one hand and an arrow on the floor at your feet.

so its ok for an archer with 7pd to 2 hit a semi-tank build? NERF THAT SHIT!!!

AGAIN, THATS A BOLT, not an arrow.
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2012, 05:24:12 pm »
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I usually get 2hit by 2h players, and that with enough body armor and medium hp. NERF?
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2012, 05:25:55 pm »
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I usually get 2hit by 2h players, and that with enough body armor and medium hp. NERF?

I call BS. Rejected!
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2012, 05:31:48 pm »
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Putting polelord on the to-ban list for being especially retarded.

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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2012, 05:35:44 pm »
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Putting polelord on the to-ban list for being especially retarded.
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2012, 05:40:50 pm »
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I call BS. Rejected!

If only. Strengh heavy builds can 1hit most archers, nice overhead from behind, armour below 30 body, 40 head will not survive a greatsword overhead
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2012, 05:44:36 pm »
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If only. Strengh heavy builds can 1hit most archers, nice overhead from behind, armour below 30 body, 40 head will not survive a greatsword overhead

It is supposed to do that, but, I and many melee build I'm sure can confirm that light armored archers/xbows will take as many hits to kill as medium armored melee fighters. Which is completely retarded. don't let me start on this one.
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Re: nerf archers
« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2012, 05:55:01 pm »
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How to make cRPG fun again in 3 easy steps.

1. Buff everything.

2. Nerf archery.

3. Let the good times roll.
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