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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2012, 06:11:00 am »
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why should it be better anyway?

In terms of stabbing?

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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2012, 06:15:01 am »
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why should it be better anyway?

I think his just saying it should be better at poking than a sword given it's a giant stick that exists for poking and poking only. But due to mechanics the sword is just a better performer.

Personally I think the long spear will still be excellent and may only require a very small damage buff to keep it useful if not necessary on the front line. Sure Pikefu will be a lot less common but once it gets it's over head stab (which I'm really, really sure it will get, I mean REALLY!) then it will still be super effective, but with out the most hateful thing in the game.

Just for a moment imagine the terror of a pike line marching at you with 2 attacks ready to go, half the line low half high and only a shielder as the thin line between death and glory for the 2h cowering behind him like a scared little child. Will be epic good times for all.

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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2012, 06:15:39 am »
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This is going to suck balls. I think Polestun or Polestagger should be removed from the faster Polearms, but weapons such as the Long Spear, Pike, Bamboo Spear, or any Lance should continue to have it. I use my Long Spear and Pike to create stagger so that my teammates can help. It's a support weapon that way. Though it is strong, it hardly mounts up against 2handers at all. And the additional polestagger is nice because I have one direction. If you fail to block down, you should get slightly punished, but it also gives me just a half a second to get a few more steps away from you.

Now, I'll be hitting people and it won't even phase them. Two-handed weapons will now reign supreme.
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2012, 06:21:38 am »
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Yeah, rebuff Military Scythe and Long Voulge.
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2012, 06:55:31 am »
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This is going to suck balls. I think polestagger or Polestagger should be removed from the faster Polearms, but weapons such as the Long Spear, Pike, Bamboo Spear, or any Lance should continue to have it. I use my Long Spear and Pike to create stagger so that my teammates can help. It's a support weapon that way. Though it is strong, it hardly mounts up against 2handers at all. And the additional polestagger is nice because I have one direction. If you fail to block down, you should get slightly punished, but it also gives me just a half a second to get a few more steps away from you.

Now, I'll be hitting people and it won't even phase them. Two-handed weapons will now reign supreme.

Wait till you get over head stab you will cry and laugh all at the same time.
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2012, 10:07:55 am »
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It's gone? Didnt even notice, about time though!
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2012, 10:15:01 am »
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Play the game some more plz, or try 2h on a higher level. Im not even gonna argue with that :).

I've played both poles and 2h multiple gens. So I don't know what this "higher level" is, maybe just an excuse to be arrogant, but there's no denying without polestun 2h is generally more advantageous in most combat situations. Poles are slower, shorter oftentimes, and many are less damaging or just on par with the popular 2hs. *cough poleaxes cough*
Not to mention they don't have their hilts, or in this case, edge of the weapon, sharpened to the point where they can kill you by tapping you with said edge, or in 2hs case, hilt. Plus with poles you unfortunately cannot use your stab as a ranged weapon as you can with 2hs. lolstab ftw.
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2012, 10:15:20 am »
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A pike still a very effective support weapon. First, it's long, second it's quite damaging, thirdly it can rear horses at quite a distance, and in a clusterfuck it's horrible when you face a piker + someone else. It just isn't so hot for solo heroics. Maybe even prompting a pikeman to drop his pike and fight with another weapon instead of using pike/longspear for every situation.
 
It is funny though that nobody bothers listing that polearms rear horses as an advantage, is there no cavalry in crpg or something
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2012, 10:17:25 am »
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So instead of finding a way to knock down the superiority of 2-handed weapons (Let's face it, they are vastly superior) they buff them by removing Polestagger?


You gotta be dicking me.

Well we couldn't have 2h on the same level as other melee classes! That would be crazy. We all know the whole point of this game is to make sure 2h is the most advantageous melee class. At least that's what I'm assuming after seeing this update.  :rolleyes:
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2012, 10:19:25 am »
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Solution, buff archery & ranged so people switch to 1hs! :)

Although, seriously, bring the old long voulge back. Now that was a great support weapon.
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2012, 10:35:47 am »
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Now this is great, but is not a buff to swashbucklers, mod is still for me.
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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2012, 10:40:39 am »
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THANK FUCKING CHRIST!

Now all they have to do is add an over head stab for the long spear and pike and all is fucking well woot, fucking woot woot!

Forgot to add!

Also;

1. Jack up damage
2. Jack the damage up on unbalanced weapons to amusingly high levels.
3. Take the unbalanced tag off the Long Volouge and Long Bard (leave it on the GLB)

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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2012, 10:41:37 am »
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Perhaps it can lower the amount of cav too since polestagger is gone.

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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2012, 10:43:10 am »
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Finaly they removed polestun. Big dmg axes having a polestun was stupidest thing i ever seen.
Someone with high athletics would hit you once with great long axe,then while you stunned quickly  move in side and hit you again in the back and kill you.
Glaive,poleaxe,long hafted blade have higher reach then 2h swords,bec,great long axe,long axe,long bardiche... have same reach as 2h swords,so what is the problem now?
2h are not op,game is balanced now.

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Re: They removed polestagger
« Reply #44 on: June 09, 2012, 10:44:23 am »
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Finaly they removed polestagger. Big dmg axes having a polestagger was stupidest thing i ever seen.
Someone with high athletics would hit you once with great long axe,then while you stunned quickly  move in side and hit you again in the back and kill you.
Glaive,poleaxe,long hafted blade have higher reach then 2h swords,bec,great long axe,long axe,long bardiche... have same reach as 2h swords,so what is the problem now?
2h are not op,game is balanced now.

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