Nerf archers.

[Peasant_Woman]

Say what you like but archers make the game less fun for everyone without a shield (and even some of those with them). Thats a pretty large percentage of the playerbase.

[Paul]

No, you make the game less fun with your constant complaining. Whenever I play a melee char without a shield I am amazed how low the ranged pressure is. Archers are so much less of a thread then before or in Native. I just don't get it how people can still complain.

[Adamar]

Because they are either noobs or they only care about themselfs. It only makes it hard for those few with legitimate complaints to stand out.

[MrShine]

Because they are either noobs or they only care about themselfs. It only makes it hard for those few with legitimate complaints to stand out.

And Peasant_Woman is that lone voice of reason amongst the rabble.

[PanPan]

Lol Look at Peter who is minusing all post wich defend Archery

[Chasey]

I've noticed a huge increase in ranged in general since the patch. Round ending with like 15 ranged still running around.Not lobbying for a nerf because ranged isnt as easy or "no skill" as people are saying, but just the sheer amount of them atm is becoming unmanageable

[Old_Sir_Agor]

today every melee player also use throw weapons or xbow. it is just because they can, but i cant call guy with 4-5pt or 1-100 xbow wpf a ranged person.

[Gurnisson]

today every melee player also use throw weapons or xbow. it is just because they can, but i cant call guy with 4-5pt or 1-100 xbow wpf a ranged person.

It's to counter ranged. You're helpless against ranged without it so people grab xbow/throwing to do some damage back. If the amount of archers increases the amount of throwing and xbows does too.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

today every melee player also use throw weapons or xbow. it is just because they can, but i cant call guy with 4-5pt or 1-100 xbow wpf a ranged person.

all xbows and throwing is more to "harass" then to do real damage. throwing darts and throwing stars are used to interrupt ana rcher firing and stop them running away, they are in no way a real danger.

i see normal xbows used as a way to deal decent damage to those two hand zergs just spamming their massive damaging sword while backpeddaling. and i understand that they dont want to get close 

I encourage all two handers who have extra skill points and slots to invest their last skillspoints and wpf in throwing. get 2 pt and use throwing stars

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

It's to counter ranged. You're helpless against ranged without it so people grab xbow/throwing to do some damage back. If the amount of archers increases the amount of throwing and xbows does too.

Even cav like me have invested our 7PT and 140 wpf in throwing so we can counter archers, or was it counter lancers? Shiiieeet *makes lancer alt to counter my old friendchers*

[Zandieer]

No, you make the game less fun with your constant complaining. Whenever I play a melee char without a shield I am amazed how low the ranged pressure is. Archers are so much less of a thread then before or in Native. I just don't get it how people can still complain.

There's atleast 3 active NERF ARCHURS thread besides this going on today

[Fartface]

I got MW javelins , also archer hardly presure me but it's just that I see huge amount's of them lately.

[MrShine]

There's atleast 3 active NERF ARCHURS thread besides this going on today

That should give you an indication about how well informed most of the "anti-ranged lobby" is.  If someone can't even use the search function,what makes you think they can adequately balance cRPG?

Yes I just likened this issue to politics; sue me

[bruce]

Say what you like but archers make the game less fun for everyone without a shield (and even some of those with them). Thats a pretty large percentage of the playerbase.

Actually they make it more fun for a large percentage of the playerbase, else every open map would end up with lancers destroying everyone.

And then when/if cavalry got nerfed after removing archers, then it would be the exclusive playground of 2h/polearmers duking it out.

Since Melee server exists right now, well.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Say what you like but archers make the game less fun for everyone without a shield (and even some of those with them). Thats a pretty large percentage of the playerbase.

Say what you like but archers ninjas make the less fun for everyone without a shield who don't get a boner from gay men in black leather (and even some of those too). Thats a pretty large percentage of the playerbase.

If devs read this, please consider changing ninjas as suggested in my balance thread, note changing, not nerfing.