What is a good 1h build?

[Sean_Drew]

Don´t forget :

Weapons with Bonus against shields ignore the body armor of shields , so a steel shield with 69 body armor and 225 hit points breaks much faster , than a fur covered shield , with only 5 body armor , but 600 hit points ( Only hitpoints counts against bonus shieldbreaker weapons ) .

And if you want to react fast , and want to be able to counterattack , without being hit if you drop shield cover , you must be fast !

Fast means : Low armor ( Low weight ) , fast shield , high points on shield ( that thing i haven´t tested enough yet .... maybe 3-4 points are enough too, must be tested if higher points on shield let react you faster ) , fast 1h weapon ( i think 98+ spd. minimum , better 100+ spd. ) , very high wpf ( 160+ helps ) , and high athletic ( 7+ ) .

Otherwise .... you will just get spammed to death ... 1 on 1 with a fast 2h .


So .... something like Zorros build looks good , i think.

[sF_Zorro]

Yeah right i was everytime in battle in top 5 with balanced champion sword and a heavy broad axe

but now im a 2 hander, i search now for a perfect 2hand build, but i know the perfect 1hander

[Sean_Drew]

Maybe i try this build next time i make a char 1h/shield :

( At Lvl 31 ! Not 30 )

    Strength: 12
    Agility: 27
    Hit points: 47

    Converted: 6
    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 4
    Shield: 4
    Athletics: 9
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 9

    One Handed: 182
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

And he would use side sword  ( EDIT : or Long Espada Eslavona cause of more pierce dam. ) , and orange/brown heater shield ( 410 hitpoints ) . That would be an active fast shielder. It would make not so much damage as str. build, but can react and counterattack. Low weight is importend too , like 2,5 weight on body armor( Gambeson or something ). But get a good helmet around 40 armor , and mail gauntlets, or something.

This char should take 1 hit .... but at the second you die ;-)

If you like to be more defensive, try a str. build with huscarl. The Huscarl gives better protection against arrows , and hits from the side. With this build you can get more armor too. Your slower ... but more hitpoints , and can take 2-3 hits before you die ...

[Vexus]

No bonus against shield DOESN'T ignore shield armor but deals double or more damage.

[Punisher]

My 1h build:

Level 31 (8 892 403 xp)

    * Strength: 18
    * Agility: 21
    * Hit points: 53

    * Converted: 6
    * Power Strike: 6
    * Shield: 7
    * Athletics: 7
    * Weapon Master: 6

    * One Handed: 157

It's a level 31 build because this is an alt that I don't plan to ever retire.

[Sean_Drew]

No bonus against shield DOESN'T ignore shield armor but deals double or more damage.

The result is the same : against shield crackers a steel shield cracks twice as fast as something with over 400 hitpoints no matter how much body armor the 400+ hitpoints shield has. Even with only 5 body armor ( and 600 hitpoints ) it lasts much longer , than the steel shield ..... test it ! I have tested it too , on duel servers. Couldn´t belive that a steel shield breaks so fast , but i have tested it. About 5 hits , and the steel shield was cracked , by a bonus against shield weapon. It was a 2h axe or something. The shields with much less body armor, but more hitpoints (400+ ) are better against shield crackers ;-)

[Spawny]

I want to play as a shielder next gen and I want use my l. Espada Eslavona, is this a good combo (Espada+elite  cav. shield)? Is the elite cav. shield a good allround shield? Cause I don't want to use the huscarl, it's totally op and you can't use it on the horseback.

edit: 2 hits do not sound that well. I saw huscarls taking 15 - 20 hits from poleaxes and such stuff without breaking.

Huscarlshields do not take 15-20 hits from poleaxes/GLA/GLB and the like. Not even with a tripple heirloomed shield with 9 shieldskill.

The long espada with elite cav is a nice combination. Just learn how to manual block a bit and you're fine.

[sF_Zorro]

make my build 4 shield is to low, youre to slow with the shields and the shield broke fast at 4 and why do you plan with lvl 31(at this lvl i retire !!)

[Sean_Drew]

Hm .... maybe Zorro´s advice is right , with high shield points ...

What would you think about such a 1h/shield build ?

( at 30 )

    Strength: 12
    Agility: 24
    Hit points: 49

    Converted: 2
    Ironflesh: 1
    Power Strike: 4
    Shield: 8
    Athletics: 8
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 8

    One Handed: 173
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

I like to be fast on foot to run around and act/react , what is around me on the battlefield.

[sF_Zorro]

nice but i think not to much life and damage 160 one handed is enough or you want a spamer xD

[Dravic]

My perfect 1h shielder:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 9
Agility: 27
Hit points: 44
Converted: 2
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 9
Athletics: 9
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 173
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Why perfect? With steel shield, youre immune to:

- crushthrough, because weight of your shield doesnt allow anyone to crushthroughblock you;
- hits of weapons without "bonus against shield";
- arrows are not going to destroy your shield untill about 1000 of them hit it;
- bolts same, + bolts cant pass steel shield, even from triple heirloomed sniper with triple heirloomed bolts. NEVER;

Usually, your shield won't break, because of above. if it comes to axes: you can play offensively against them and "facehug" them with 9 athletics - if someone is going to break your shield with axe, he should have at least 8 PS - so approx. 5 athl. you can use this advantage! also, why at least 8 ps? because:

Axes do double damage to shields, everything else works as normal.

and since you have +90% to shield resistance from shield skill 9, we can do some maths:

69shieldresistance*190%~~131

Shield resistance works as armor resistance (body, head, leg), so:

from best shield cutter weapon:

47, cut*2=94

Shield can "negate" dmg: at least 50% of resistance, approx 100%

so:

max dmg: 94dmg * (8*13PS)% * 100% - 131 * 50% ~~ 192dmg - 65res(minimum!) ~~ 126dmg
Its the worst scenario. Your Steel Shield *unheirloomed* has 225 hp points. Again, its the worst scenario: full power of your opponent dmg (it can be rolled to only 50% if enemy has bad luck, max to 100% of dmg if he is lucky, and dmg is calculated this way: dmg*(psamount*8)% * rolled %(from 50 to 100)

OK, we have worst scenario. Now if youre lucky:

min dmg: 94dmg * (8*13PS)% * 50% - 131 * 100% ~~ 96dmg - 131res = shield doesnt receive dmg. From shields cutter. Think about regular weapons without bonus to shield. They suck against you.

PS I dont include speed bonuses in my maths, because its senseless: 13PS guy wont be too fast, for sure. And you can backpedal to decrease his axe dmg!

Oh, and i should add one thing. I think, weapons have to do at least 1 dmg to your shield, for sure. So regular 2 handers will do 1dmg/per hit to your shield. As for arrows, im not sure. Actually, why would you ask about arrows? almost noone owns 3 quivers of regular arrows (28arrowsperquiver*3=84), and normal, "wise" archer uses 2 quivers of bodkins (16arrowsperquiver*2=32). 32 dmg lost, wow. Also, remember: you have 9 athletics, you can get archer before he shot his fifth arrow at you.

[Laufknoten]

Huscarlshields do not take 15-20 hits from poleaxes/GLA/GLB and the like. Not even with a tripple heirloomed shield with 9 shieldskill.

The long espada with elite cav is a nice combination. Just learn how to manual block a bit and you're fine.

Well, thats just what I saw. Last round, 10 people chasing the last enemy, bashing his huscarlshield and I counted at least 10 or 15 hits till it broke.

I'm playing 2h at the moment, so yes, I can manual block a bit.

I focus on the style, I don't want to top the scoreboards, if so I would use huscarlshield and the lightsaber-sidesword. Elite cav. shield and my long espada should look fine.

[Spawny]

My perfect 1h shielder:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 9
Agility: 27
Hit points: 44
Converted: 2
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 3
Shield: 9
Athletics: 9
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 173
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Why perfect? With steel shield, youre immune to:

- crushthrough, because weight of your shield doesnt allow anyone to crushthroughblock you;
- hits of weapons without "bonus against shield";
- arrows are not going to destroy your shield untill about 1000 of them hit it;
- bolts same, + bolts cant pass steel shield, even from triple heirloomed sniper with triple heirloomed bolts. NEVER;

Usually, your shield won't break, because of above. if it comes to axes: you can play offensively against them and "facehug" them with 9 athletics - if someone is going to break your shield with axe, he should have at least 8 PS - so approx. 5 athl. you can use this advantage! also, why at least 8 ps? because:

and since you have +90% to shield resistance from shield skill 9, we can do some maths:

69shieldresistance*190%~~131

Shield resistance works as armor resistance (body, head, leg), so:

from best shield cutter weapon:

47, cut*2=94

Shield can "negate" dmg: at least 50% of resistance, approx 100%

so:

max dmg: 94dmg * (8*13PS)% * 100% - 131 * 50% ~~ 192dmg - 65res(minimum!) ~~ 126dmg
Its the worst scenario. Your Steel Shield *unheirloomed* has 225 hp points. Again, its the worst scenario: full power of your opponent dmg (it can be rolled to only 50% if enemy has bad luck, max to 100% of dmg if he is lucky, and dmg is calculated this way: dmg*(psamount*8)% * rolled %(from 50 to 100)

OK, we have worst scenario. Now if youre lucky:

min dmg: 94dmg * (8*13PS)% * 50% - 131 * 100% ~~ 96dmg - 131res = shield doesnt receive dmg. From shields cutter. Think about regular weapons without bonus to shield. They suck against you.

PS I dont include speed bonuses in my maths, because its senseless: 13PS guy wont be too fast, for sure. And you can backpedal to decrease his axe dmg!

Oh, and i should add one thing. I think, weapons have to do at least 1 dmg to your shield, for sure. So regular 2 handers will do 1dmg/per hit to your shield. As for arrows, im not sure. Actually, why would you ask about arrows? almost noone owns 3 quivers of regular arrows (28arrowsperquiver*3=84), and normal, "wise" archer uses 2 quivers of bodkins (16arrowsperquiver*2=32). 32 dmg lost, wow. Also, remember: you have 9 athletics, you can get archer before he shot his fifth arrow at you.

Looks nice. Might try that next gen.
Which weapon do you use to make up for the 3 PS and the "bounce of death"?
And how much does the weight of the steel shield slow you down while running?

[Dravic]

I use Niuweidao. 33 cut. You know, I just dont like to thrust. But you might try some other 1handers, like Knightly arming sword, if you like such look and like to thrust a bit.

As for shield:

You know, it slows you down, for sure, but with 9 athletics you dont actually see that. Of course, you CAN and you ARE faster than regular 2h builds with 15 agi

Athletics help a bit, too.

And with Niuweidao, I am not bouncing, especially if i move forward when i attack.

[Spawny]

I will most likely use my MW sidesword I guess. I just checked and it's requirement is just 8 strength 

36 cut damage+103 speed+27 agility+Indestructible steel shield

DAMN!

Can't use any decent armour with 9 strength anyway, so it's easily affordable.