The Elder Scrolls Online

[Sniger]

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[Leesin]

We all know which sites you visit

ESO isn't all that in any regard, the PvP/RvR works good, the system behind it etc, that's all.
Everything else is as with all other MMOs, just with a Elder Scrolls universe, which means lackluster and unimaginative.

One thing though, I wouldn't "trust" anyone who base their opinion off the ESO beta, if people are putting down the game based on their beta experiences then they don't know what they're talking about really

I have to disagree with you, you could tell from the beta weekends that the game was never going to be that good, there just isn't enough time and freedom between those and the release date to allow for much to change other than the fluffy parts.

[JasonPastman]

Anyone lvl 50 yet on their main?  If so how's the end game, pvp and pve?

I'm 43 on my dk. My goal is to hit 50 before the 30th (so less then a month).

[Miwiw]

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[JasonPastman]

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Wait!... Is that you raging out or the worm trolling you?

[Miwiw]

He's always trolling me!

[Sniger]

epic elder scrolls guild name is epic

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[Nessaj]

I have to disagree with you, you could tell from the beta weekends that the game was never going to be that good, there just isn't enough time and freedom between those and the release date to allow for much to change other than the fluffy parts.

Hardly, everything this game wasn't in beta it is now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an ES fan, very fed up with all the fantasy stuff personally and I'm not going to continue playing ESO for more than a couple of months to fully get the grasp of the game as a total whole, but even now, I personally can easily say that ESO is a good MMO, the best out there by a mile, probably mostly for PVP, but there's a whole lot of other standard issues that doesn't exist in ESO. For example quests are nicely different making it much less tedious and painful to level up, unlike every other MMO I ever tried since the dawn of MMOs

I've tried all the other new ones, Wildstar etc, and those get boring very quick unless you're into purely PVE (could change at retail ofc), ESO doesn't, for some reason it just gets better and better, at least for now. There's so much variation, so many ways to play your class, not to mention it's very easy to switch around and learn something new if you want to. Plenty of content coming up plus the adventure zones which seems to be something for all the PVE gimps.

Plus ESO is very simplified, everyone should be able to learn, the WoW generation (first timers) is having a field day

It runs great, FPS is good, world looks nice, graphics are nice. I mean, except for it being fantasy and button mashing combat it's a really well made game, minus the current D/C issues albeit minimal.

I would definitely recommend this game for people who like to open world PVP in MMOs; there's no arena type pvp yet as far as I know.


It might not be innovating but it's as good as it gets.

[TheAppleSauceMan]

I'd play it if it didn't have a monthly sub. For now I'll wait the 6 months or so before it inevitably becomes F2P or one time purchase.

[Miwiw]

Just hope they would do F2P stuff similar to SWTOR/LotRO, so you can still play P2P which gives you no restrictions and keeps the game like now. F2P players would have heavy restrictions though, so only casual players wouldn't pay monthly.
In SWTOR/LotRO even f2p players need to pay for add ons.

[JasonPastman]

SERIOUSLY though... WHO gives a fuck about 50 cents a day.  WHEN it comes DOWN to it ALL that matters is whether or not they keep the content fresh and exciting.

[Miwiw]

50 cent, thats a coffee 0,2cl.

[JasonPastman]

I just found  an article of a german gaming website from mid-2012 where it says that even the developers planned from the very beginning to make the game free2play 6 - 12 months after the release. Subscriptions are only planned for the beginning to make some money, also going free2play saved or even boosted alot of MMO's in the last years, so they will do it too anyway sooner or later.

When it's free2play I will check it out again for sure.

cite it or its BS!... and even then prolly still BS...

[JasonPastman]

Well, of course I don't know how much truth is in that article. You never know, it's the internet after all.

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http://www.gameswelt.de/the-elder-scrolls-online/news/erst-abo-modell-dann-free-to-play,160128

Oh shit!... It's in German... Well Played! 

[Miwiw]

Bethesda überraschte uns vergangene Woche mit der Ankündigung von The Elder Scrolls Online, dem ersten Rollenspiel im Universum der erfolgreichen Serie, die zuletzt mit The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim reichlich Loorbeeren einfahren konnte. Doch wie immer stellt sich auch bei diesem MMORPG die Frage, wie es sich finanzieren wird. Der Analyst Nicholas Lovell glaubt, dass der Titel zunächst auf ein klassisches Abo-Modell setzen werde.

Er begründet dies damit, dass das Spiel bereits seit 2007 in Planung sei und damals waren Online-Rollenspiele mit diesem Geschäftsmodell noch die Regel. In den letzten Jahren jedoch haben die Free-to-Play-Vertreter, die sich über Mikrotransaktionen in Form eines Item-Shops finanzieren, einen immer höheren Stellenwert eingenommen. Das Abo-Modell scheint immer weniger ratsam für Entwickler und Publisher zu sein, wie Beispiele alá Aion oder Der Herr der Ringe Online zeigen. Diese sind nämlich mittlerweile zu Free-to-Play-Titel geworden und seitdem erfolgreicher als zuvor. Laut Lovell sei es nun denkbar, dass Bethesda mit einem Abo-Modell startet, um die sogenannten "Early Adopters" abfangen zu können. Schließlich sei dieses System das besser Verständliche, welches auf den ersten Blick einfach mehr Klarheit bietet. Später werde man aber auf ein Free-2-Play-Modell umsteigen, da dieser Schritt, wie erwähnt, vielen Titeln einen Erfolgsschub eingebracht hat.

"Bethesda surprised us last week with the announcement of the Elder Scrolls Online, the first Online Game of the Elder Scrolls series - that gave us a last great game with Skyrim. However like always this gives us many questions, especially how they plan to organize the payment for it. Nicholas Lovell believes ESO is gonna be a typical P2P game (like WoW for example).
He's giving the reason that the game was planned to be developed since 2007 already and at that time nearly all MMO's went P2P. During the last years more and more games, especially F2P MMO's however went to use in game stores that use micro transactions and those were going to be more important every year. For example games like Aion and LotRO also went from P2P to F2P with in game shop. And since they went to F2P they are more successful than ever before. Lovell thinks that if Bethesda starts with P2P they could do some money because many people want to play the game from day 1 and would pay to play. Plus that system is much easier because it's easier to understand - pay 2 play. An in game store is more complex. Later on Bethesda will most likely go F2P because as mentioned before many games became far more successful when being F2P (with in game store)."

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Not saying anything, no official truths in it, and its an old article from mid 2012.