The Elder Scrolls Online

[Banok]

vibe you do realise that is the desexualised EU version too, lol asianz

also lord berenger not sure if you think 3 is too high or too low, to be honest before playing ESO I think I would have given it less.

ESO makes otherwise shitty themepark mmos look good, definitely made me and a friend reminisce of the old days of age of conan.

[LordBerenger]

vibe you do realise that is the desexualised EU version too, lol asianz

also lord berenger not sure if you think 3 is too high or too low, to be honest before playing ESO I think I would have given it less.

ESO makes otherwise shitty themepark mmos look good, definitely made me and a friend reminisce of the old days of age of conan.

SWTOR is a nice MMORPG if you like Star Wars.

[Leshma]

I like SW and SWTOR is shit. Clone Wars is not real Star Wars. Real SW died with Jedi Knight.

[Tomas_Miles_again]

I like SW and SWTOR is shit. Clone Wars is not real Star Wars. Real SW died with Jedi Knight.

The first Clone Wars cartoon (Samurai jack style) was actually fucking epic

But yes, Jedi Knight was the shit

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Actually if anyone has Dark Forces 2 or Academy and wants a match  PM ME

[LordBerenger]

I like SW and SWTOR is shit. Clone Wars is not real Star Wars. Real SW died with Jedi Knight.

LOL SWTOR is not clone wars. And the stories for each classes are great. I've finished Sith Warrior almost Bounty Hunter and got a couple of other classes at lvl 30+ each both males and females. It's great but as any MMORPGs it can get boring after a while.

[Vibe]

I'll say this. SWTOR is a decent single player game. In regards to being an MMORPG, it fucking sucks hard. But the story lines were interesting.

But most of all, this:

Real SW died with Jedi Knight.

[Tomas_Miles_again]

whoa

http://www.jkhub.net/project/show.php?projid=4&section=description

Sorry for derailing

[zagibu]

JKHub still exists...nice. Maybe it's time to pay the Massassi Temple a visit again, too.

[Banok]

SWTOR is a nice MMORPG if you like Star Wars.

kotor was one of my favourite rpg's. swtor is more of a sequel to wow than kotor, fact. eso commits the same crime but is also even more boring.

[Banok]

back on topic i've figured it all out;

the weird thing is I thought the NDA was hilarious because they were obviously trying to cover up how awful the game is as long as possible, right?

well actually a poll on beta forums shows people actually like this shit, people ingame seemed happy to defend it.

even my own cousin who doesn't know what a themepark mmo is, said he quite liked it. then it all started to make sense.

so even tho this game is much worse than other crappy themepark mmo's, the fact that its elderscrolls and releasing on consoles, and has incredibly dumbed down mechanics, and decent graphics. means that this may actually be a HUGE hit.

basically this game isn't aimed at ES fans or mmorpg players, its squarely aimed at 12 year old xbox players.

[Vibe]

Actually, I think this game is targeted at ES fans that haven't played a single MMORPG yet, so even the most generic themepark game will be a new experience for them.

[Tibe]

Well my weekend with TESo is over. And I must say it was every bit as generic as I expected. MMO still is a tag for shit cause good detailed content and other stuff gets ripped out for the sake of getting to play with random people and assuring that everyone is always on equal ground. I swear to god, I dont know what the hell even the plots about. I stopped caring really.

[Banok]

MMO still is a tag for shit

I agree, I was trying to explain to my cousin what a themepark mmo means but then I realised its pointless because themeparks are 99% of the genre/market.

mmo has become a bad word, no wonder games like dayz avoid the word completely.

[Vibe]

I agree, I was trying to explain to my cousin what a themepark mmo means but then I realised its pointless because themeparks are 99% of the genre/market.

mmo has become a bad word, no wonder games like dayz avoid the word completely.

well dayz isn't an mmo

[CrazyCracka420]

Nothing I read in the last two/three pages is surprising; especially with the way massive budgets for game development goes where you have to build for the lowest common denominator to try to siphon up all the monies.

THIS THIS THIS

Been saying it for years.  When you cater your games to the lowest common denominators (in order to make the most money) you end up with watered down, shitty games that are similar to other proven success stories of watered down, shitty games.  You appeal to more people and make more money, but the games are worse overall (so that's why they keep doing it, because it maximizes their profits). 

MMORPGs started going down hill in the early 2000's when proven successful MMORPGs started watering down the game to make it more friendly to the lowest common denominators.  This started to appeal to more people, but the games are (at least to me) objectively worse and worse.  They are more for the casuals, the unskilled, and the people who rage too easily and quit games.   WoW is my prime example for this.  Games like EQ and Ultima Online were very good in their heyday, but they started dumbing down the games, and WoW is what capitalized on the trend of these games watering down their content for casuals and raging baddies.

I don't see this trend changing any time soon, it's only getting more and more prevalent.