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Who uses the Yumi?

I do and I love it!
I use it situationally.
I tried it and it sucked so I haven't used it since.
I looked at the stats and decided not to bother
What's a Yumi?

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Who uses the Yumi?
« on: April 23, 2012, 08:26:08 pm »
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I'm trying to gauge how many archers or even pseudo-archers have tried or currently use the Yumi. If you have a personalized experience, post it up and tell us!
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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 08:31:07 pm »
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i know that black corsair rs use it, and pretty well.
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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2012, 08:40:32 pm »
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Weaboos.
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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 09:41:01 pm »
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I will use it. Assuming that I can find it, or have to buy 3 looms in a row.
It's stats are also nice. 2 damage for being only 1 point slower in speed. The only drawback is possibly the missile speed, and the existence of better bows for a ground archer.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 09:42:31 pm by Ronin »
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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2012, 10:30:37 pm »
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It's best 1slot bow. More accurate than hornbow\rusbow, with better rate of fire.
 
All this rumours about missile speed is overrated. Just remember what missile speed has hornbow before body\head shot rebalance.

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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 11:11:51 pm »
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I liked using it on my horse archer with 18/21 build, only 3 HA but it's still fine.

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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2012, 02:55:18 pm »
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TLDR

yumi is a slightly slower slightly more powerful horn bow, with the lowest missile speed of all bows, less accuracy and higher difficulty requirement
« Last Edit: April 24, 2012, 03:00:38 pm by Memento_Mori »

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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2012, 04:17:00 pm »
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I don't like it, but I've seen some good archers use it well.

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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 04:19:19 pm »
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I was interested in it after I noticed it has 1 slot but I didn't play with it yet. If 6 PD I always went Rus or Long Bow due to dmg reasons.
Probably gonna try it in a future generation.
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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2012, 04:23:14 pm »
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It's Epic. But I'll stick to my Long Bow.

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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2012, 06:22:52 pm »
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Hmm... Memento Mori if you're not using your yumi, would you be interested in trading it? I reeeeallly need that yumi. Pwetty please with marshmellows and sugar on top :oops:
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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 01:38:07 am »
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I used to use it, but frankly it's pretty useless. The main problem is that it has no long range capabilities, since it has some weird arrow 'dip' on it that makes it utterly useless past about 30m. It's just not accurate enough even at short distances and while it does pack a punch if you can hit with it, those hits are far too few and far between to make it viable as a bow choice over the Horn or Rus bow.

IMO, it should be a 5 PD weapon not a 6, since both the Rus and Long bow are more accurate and the speed difference between the Yumi and the Rus bow is negligable. Taking into account that it's only one slot, that puts it into the same class as the Horn bow which shoots much faster and more accurately (in my experience) and thus is a far more useful weapon (especially since the headshot buff). Conversely, the difference between the speed of the Yumi and the Rus basically isn't there, so why would you take an albeit 1 slot Yumi, when you can take a harder hitting bow with more accuracy?

This is the main problem with it I think, but it's probably set up this way because all weaboo weapons are either priced poorly, or made useless by their stats (i.e wakizashi). Either the Yumi should be more accurate, or faster firing or have it's power draw requirement reduced in order to make it an actually competative bow, rather than a style choice that most don't make because of it's uselessness.

My two cents.

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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 01:42:22 am »
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I used to use it, but frankly it's pretty useless. The main problem is that it has no long range capabilities, since it has some weird arrow 'dip' on it that makes it utterly useless past about 30m. It's just not accurate enough even at short distances and while it does pack a punch if you can hit with it, those hits are far too few and far between to make it viable as a bow choice over the Horn or Rus bow.

IMO, it should be a 5 PD weapon not a 6, since both the Rus and Long bow are more accurate and the speed difference between the Yumi and the Rus bow is negligable. Taking into account that it's only one slot, that puts it into the same class as the Horn bow which shoots much faster and more accurately (in my experience) and thus is a far more useful weapon (especially since the headshot buff). Conversely, the difference between the speed of the Yumi and the Rus basically isn't there, so why would you take an albeit 1 slot Yumi, when you can take a harder hitting bow with more accuracy?

This is the main problem with it I think, but it's probably set up this way because all weaboo weapons are either priced poorly, or made useless by their stats (i.e wakizashi). Either the Yumi should be more accurate, or faster firing or have it's power draw requirement reduced in order to make it an actually competative bow, rather than a style choice that most don't make because of it's uselessness.

My two cents.

But did you used a non-loomed yumi or +3 yumi. Because as long as it's accuracy and missile speed is at a reasonable value, that means it is just fine. Which is increased by looms. Seriously guys. I want this weapon.
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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 02:49:54 am »
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This is a lot more evenly split than I had expected to see. This demand here is something else I hadn't expected.
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SibatamaLALA_Linsanity   24/04/2012 17:09   Masterwork Heavy Crossbow   3   0   Masterwork Yumi >   3   0
Kojiro007   24/04/2012 18:28   Masterwork Horn Bow   3   0   Masterwork Yumi >   3   100,000
SAMURAI_NaiCha   19/04/2012 12:58   Masterwork Long Bow   3   0   Masterwork Yumi >   3   0
Guard_Arokh_vom_Berge   22/04/2012 19:39   Masterwork Rus Bow   3   0   Masterwork Yumi >   3   0
Token_JesusNinja_MB   20/04/2012 14:40   Masterwork Spear   3   200,000   Masterwork Yumi >   3   0
Kapikulu_MahirTheKusucurtmaz   25/04/2012 00:09         1,400,000   Masterwork Yumi >   3   0
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Re: Who uses the Yumi?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 07:34:16 am »
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But did you used a non-loomed yumi or +3 yumi. Because as long as it's accuracy and missile speed is at a reasonable value, that means it is just fine. Which is increased by looms. Seriously guys. I want this weapon.

Non-loomed of course. Heirlooms are meant to be rare, thus we can't balance a game based on how good a masterwork version of that weapon is. If it becomes godly at masterwork, so be it, but it takes 3 generations to get it there (or a lot of money and some risk). Would you balance stones on how good they are at MW? Or a shield? Lances? I've never seen that. 2handers maybe, but we must apply balancing rules consistantly across the board, or else it is chaos.