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Would you like to see this type of weapon implemented?

Yes
43 (36.1%)
Yes, but with adjusted stats
58 (48.7%)
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18 (15.1%)

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New Polearm: Yari?
« on: March 16, 2011, 07:35:16 pm »
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Hello,

I had an idea for a new polearm recently. It would be nice to have a polearm akin to the war spear, but with better swing damage. I'm thinking of something similar to the Japanese Yari.

Feel free to critique and suggest different stats if you feel the following would be over/under powered, or if you are interested in seeing this type of weapon implemented.

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Yari
Price: 5200
weight: 2.0
requirement: 8
spd rtng: 94
weapon length: 150
swing damage: 29, cut
thrust damage: 30, pierce

Usable on horseback (swing and stab)
Penalty with shield

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yari
« Last Edit: March 16, 2011, 07:54:16 pm by Sammael »

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2011, 08:36:42 pm »
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Able to swing on horseback? Thats crazy. Other than that it seems allright, perhaps with a lower cut dmg.
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2011, 08:38:31 pm »
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93 or 92 speed would be better imo.

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 08:39:33 pm »
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more items more fun  :wink:
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 08:46:35 pm »
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Able to swing on horseback? Thats crazy. Other than that it seems allright, perhaps with a lower cut dmg.

Think of the long hafted blade, which has 38 cut, 3 more range and is capable of swinging from horseback.

I'd rather see the swing from horseback removed than a lowering of the cut damage I suppose. I really want a polearm that doesn't feel as though I'm being penalized for choosing to either swing or to stab(on foot), thus I'd like to keep the swing and stab damage fairly close.

Thanks for the replies so far!

*edited for clarification
« Last Edit: March 16, 2011, 08:48:08 pm by Sammael »

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 08:57:00 pm »
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I'd reduce the length to ~140 and thrust dmg to 28 (don't forget about heirlooming) to make it more balanced since it's a spear with good swinging capabilities, speed 92-93. Would be a really awesome weapon to have in the game, now if only someone could make it...

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 09:03:28 pm »
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I'd reduce the length to ~140 and thrust dmg to 28 (don't forget about heirlooming) to make it more balanced since it's a spear with good swinging capabilities, speed 92-93. Would be a really awesome weapon to have in the game, now if only someone could make it...

I thought the Shogunate might go for this type of weapon  :D

So far, with the limited votes cast, I'd concur with a slight reduction (1-2 points) in both speed and thrust dmg.

The length is the same as the war spear, though this weapon costs roughly double. I'd still like to see it in the 150ish range, since the swing damage is quite low compared to other polearms (long hafted blade, poleaxes, etc.)
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 09:07:09 pm »
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I thought the Shogunate might go for this type of weapon  :D

So far, with the limited votes cast, I'd concur with a slight reduction (1-2 points) in both speed and thrust dmg.
I would,definately. But i'm just suggesting slightly less op stats for the sake of game balance. Length historically can really vary from 1.5m to 6m so it can be adjusted for the game easily.

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 09:09:54 pm »
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I would,definately. But i'm just suggesting slightly less op stats for the sake of game balance. Length historically can really vary from 1.5m to 6m so it can be adjusted for the game easily.

Sorry I edited my post regarding the weapon length after you posted again.

Meet in the middle? 145 length?  :wink:

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 09:12:34 pm »
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Sorry I edited my post regarding the weapon length after you posted again.

Meet in the middle? 145 length?  :wink:
Sure, why not. Can you make it now ? :D

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 09:22:40 pm »
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Sure, why not. Can you make it now ? :D

I'd have absolutely no idea where to start  :(

But maybe once I get off work I can delve into the world of weapon design! (or someone who really likes the idea and actually has the ability can give it a go!)

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2011, 08:13:54 am »
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In LOTR the tower guards have mean spear things. They are fairly similar to the weapon you are suggesting but far better looking IMO. I don't think that anybody really cares about historical  accuracy so could we have the LOTR tower guard spear instead instead.
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2011, 04:35:58 pm »
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In LOTR the tower guards have mean spear things. They are fairly similar to the weapon you are suggesting but far better looking IMO. I don't think that anybody really cares about historical  accuracy so could we have the LOTR tower guard spear instead instead.

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2011, 05:07:48 pm »
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My input, would be better if it was this style of yari to make it more of a unique weapon, to the hafted blade etc.

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and should not usable with shield, so has clear disadvantage to the lance.

only problem is if you try it with the hafted blade the swing from horse animation is very broken. plus we dont have the model anyway so its pointless discussion ;)

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2011, 05:23:58 pm »
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It could be used like the swizz halberd and the bill, overhead and thrust only.