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Would you like to see this type of weapon implemented?

Yes
43 (36.1%)
Yes, but with adjusted stats
58 (48.7%)
No
18 (15.1%)

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2011, 07:33:17 pm »
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It could be used like the swizz halberd and the bill, overhead and thrust only.

With 145 reach?

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2011, 10:15:35 pm »
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http://www.historum.com/speculative-history/18449-samurai-vs-vikings-6.html#post256553?postcount=57

This guy Gives a pretty interesting post.

Note this "You're addressing things that have been said 2 years ago. Recently (as in late 2009, 2010), none of what you're addressing has been said. Japanese spears were also of much better quality due to tang construction, rather than the socket construction of European spears. It takes a lot of work to free the blade of a yari. Add on that a sankaku yari was diamond or triangular in cross section, and it makes a very lethal weapon. There's more kinetic energy in a sankaku yari."

With this In mind I think a Yari should do more thrust damage than a war spear. But I think it should do less swing damage. Maybe something more along the lines of 23 swing damage
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2011, 10:24:38 pm »
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Alot less damage maby and increased length because this would make warspear useless :/
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2011, 10:32:40 pm »
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Yari
Price: 5200
weight: 2.0
requirement: 8
spd rtng: 94
weapon length: 150
swing damage: 29, cut
thrust damage: 30, pierce

Usable on horseback (swing and stab)
Penalty with shield

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yari
Price: 5400
weight: 2.0
requirement: 9
spd rtng: 92
weapon length: 160
swing damage: 25, cut
thrust damage: 31, pierce

Usable on horseback (swing and stab) just stab
Penalty with shield

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2011, 05:48:12 am »
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Alot less damage maby and increased length because this would make warspear useless :/

My idea here was to make a high tier weapon that does pretty much what the warspear does.

It could be used like the swizz halberd and the bill, overhead and thrust only.

It could.. but then what would make it unique?

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2011, 07:57:06 pm »
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Price: 5400
weight: 2.0
requirement: 9
spd rtng: 92
weapon length: 160
swing damage: 25, cut
thrust damage: 31, pierce

Usable on horseback (swing and stab) just stab
Penalty with shield

I like These stats minus the no swing. The reason you would swing a Japanese spear is because the blade could be used for cutting, although not as good at cutting as a naginata it still would prove useful
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2011, 11:14:40 pm »
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Here's a bunch of screenshots from an existing mod with some yari's, a naginata and some other stuff:

Click ME!!

Models aren't that great, but may be a nice basis.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2011, 11:15:42 pm by Spawny »
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2011, 12:57:08 am »
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No shield due to considerable length but i agree with other stats. Should be long awlpike alternative.

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2011, 11:54:28 am »
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No shield, no swing, decent speed - basically an improved bamboo spear.

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2011, 08:51:29 pm »
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I would like a yari, make it a longer weapon than warspear, with slighty less stab damage and a bit more swing damage. Something like 93 speed and 145 length.

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2011, 09:26:45 pm »
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DO IT, quick fix.......add the swing on horseback to military sythe. It is what I use for my "yari cavalry" looking character.

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2011, 08:17:45 am »
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bumpity bump. id love to have a yari for my weeaboo character!

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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2011, 11:27:26 am »
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My input, would be better if it was this style of yari to make it more of a unique weapon, to the hafted blade etc.

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and should not usable with shield, so has clear disadvantage to the lance.

only problem is if you try it with the hafted blade the swing from horse animation is very broken. plus we dont have the model anyway so its pointless discussion ;)
it's way shorter than the lance and that's a big disadvantage towards eachother

and i don't thing we shoudl put a yari with a hilt in the game because it still blocks as a polearm and not as a yari with hilt is intended to. so i prefer one like this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PAUL-CHEN-HANWEI-CAS-YARI-SPEAR-NAGINATA-SH2152-T-10-/230604590897?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b11acf31#ht_1981wt_1140
now for just US $325 :lol:
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2011, 12:24:51 pm »
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I would like a yari, make it a longer weapon than warspear, with slighty less stab damage and a bit more swing damage. Something like 93 speed and 145 length.
if you want it longer it should be atleast 155 -.-
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Re: New Polearm: Yari?
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2012, 10:35:28 pm »
+1
as there were made a lot of new shit polearms like partisan, ranseur, spetum and else, wanna pay attention on yari once again. seriously, making the models of these polearms and not making yari is a crime.
here is some info about yari from total war
http://www.totalwars.ru/encyclopedia/units/inf_spear_yari_samurai.html
as there said yari (that samurai used) was much shorter then ashigaru's (which is simalar to bamboo spear). then i suggest these stats:
lenght 140
weight 1.5
thrust 29
swing 32 (yari is the most universal polearm, then there should be both swing and thrust)
speed 94
dif 12
price should be smth like 6500 or 7000
and there should no swinging from the mount, just read the very begining of the describtion
http://www.totalwars.ru/encyclopedia/units/cav_spear_yari_cavalry_takeda.html
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