Nerf The Courser

[Smoothrich]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ3fW1BxIRY

Team USA defeat the top seeded EU cav team to clinch the finals of the Great Khans tournament.

Funny if you look at the horses.  EU is all using arabians and desert horses, and the best performing lancers on team USA are using Destriers.  Huey is great of course, but he had 200+  ping and got wrecked in this kind of cav fighting with his low maneuverability.

Also, peep all my pro cav plays, I'm in the red tunic, ya know the one clutching 1 vs 2 the last two rounds to win the tournament.  I'm abusing maneuver, not speed, to outlance people.

Coursers just get you from scrub to scrub faster to get kills.  They die much easier to ranged fire than destriers.  Destriers have great speed for stats, all around good horse.  I like it more because on a courser you have to play like a bitch, staying on the flanks, cuz stray infantry or ranged hitting your horse take it out fast.  Destrier lets you stay in the thick of it longer, supporting infantry, better for my playstyle.

Also, all cav is OP, nerf it all.  That should be the real lesson here.

[Spanish]

That looks fucking awesome! The only thing that should be changed is it should just be an open plains map that way you could utilize running down an opponent and setting him up to be couched or lanced better. But a courser would be useless in there with those Arabians.

[Son Of Odin]

I can't tell if you're trolling or not, but here goes.

Me neither, but to be honest I don't simply care what he says anymore .



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[Leshma]

So we need to balance this and put Arabian in front of the courser since it costs more money and riding! Im getting ripped off

I agree. Best way to buff Arabian is to lower riding requirement to 6.

[rustyspoon]

I agree. Best way to buff Arabian is to lower riding requirement to 6.

This would make my day. Make it so!

[Son Of Odin]

I agree. Best way to buff Arabian is to lower riding requirement to 6.

Just hell no... ps 7 Arabian warhorse lancers all over the place... No thanks...

[Leshma]

I don't get it, isn't speed bonus most important for lancer and 1Hcav? I think that Garrus has 5 PS and I know that Royanss has 5 PS as 1Hcav. Having 7 PS is a buff, but mainly when you're fighting on foot.

[Vexus]

Manoeuvre is very useful vs lancers as 1h/2h cav.

[Smoothrich]

I don't get it, isn't speed bonus most important for lancer and 1Hcav? I think that Garrus has 5 PS and I know that Royanss has 5 PS as 1Hcav. Having 7 PS is a buff, but mainly when you're fighting on foot.

If you hit someone with a lance, regardless of powerstrike or speed, they are gonna be fucked up.  Badly.  Who cares about the variables of 1-5 hp when you blackbar 90 percent of players on any horse with any type of lance with the smallest of speed bonuses.

[Spanish]

Yeah getting hit by a lance really sucks but how would an Arabian lance with 7ps do more damage than guy on a destrier who can have 8 ps using a morning star? In any case lowering it to 6 riding will mean a lot more Arabian riders will be slower than when it was at 7. I'm thinking of going to 8 riding next gen because the speed and maneuver will be even better.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

5ps was enough for my lancing 15/21 on an arabian. manoeuver ftw

[BADPLAYERold]

the bonuses for more riding aint that great anymore i rather get more PS so that even when im moving slowly my lance hurts a ton

[Mlekce]

5ps was enough for my lancing 15/21 on an arabian. manoeuver ftw

more riding,more dmg u deal with your lance. I couldn't kill anyone with 5ps,and then i got 7 riding and used AW and it was easier to kill.

[Son Of Odin]

I don't get it, isn't speed bonus most important for lancer and 1Hcav? I think that Garrus has 5 PS and I know that Royanss has 5 PS as 1Hcav. Having 7 PS is a buff, but mainly when you're fighting on foot.

No. You can't ride to most of the situations with full speed. Then when you slow down your speed bonus naturally gets lower and you need more PS to make the difference and get the killing hit. I tried out 21/21 cav STF build. I can imagine it is hell on Calradia if arabian warhorse gets req 6 riding and the same could be done basically with 21/18 build or more so with 24/18 build if you want to make extra specialized build...

[Spanish]

You forget riding also increases acceleration meaning if I stop waiting for a good angle on a guy fighting a friendly it's possible I can almost get to full speed when I charge into it. Depending how far away I stop, even if I don't get full speed it's always more than enough to bump him to the floor.