Petition for new 1h left swing animation

[San]

1h chambers are good and hard to block on left swing and overhead(against stabs) without sufficiently fast weapons.


1h left swing spam has already been nerfed on block. Most of the times I try to left swing after a hit and I get hit again even though I know the opponent hesitated. Don't know what more people can want. It's not too hard to sneak in second hits by having your opponent delay after a block due to holds/feints mixed in and footwork more/turn harder on swings, though. Often times the opponent doesn't realize he hesitated himself (or poor ping).

[Vote]

Most shielders cant get good kd, some shielders can get good kd on eu1, few shielders from time to time in strategus.
If I had to equip my army in strategus I would not buy anything for shielders and would not hire any, maybe only Itosai and Dalhi.

[Tears of Destiny]

If I had to equip my army in strategus I would not buy anything for shielders and would not hire any, maybe only Itosai and Dalhi.

So pull an early Hospitaller/Occitan and get shot to living shit and back, time after time after time and be absolutely butchered on the battlefield, then finally adapt and bring shields and suddenly do exponentially better?

Because fuck range, marching into hailstorms always works well in strategus. I'm sure DRZ would love you being an enemy 

[Vote]

So pull an early Hospitaller/Occitan and get shot to living shit and back, time after time after time and be absolutely butchered on the battlefield, then finally adapt and bring shields and suddenly do exponentially better?

Because fuck range, marching into hailstorms always works well in strategus. I'm sure DRZ would love you being an enemy 

I spoke about EU and I didnt said that archers are useless, ofc. I would hire as much as I can )
And.., 2h/polearm can hide behind some shield too, while combat it does not matter if you have shield or not.

[Tears of Destiny]

Im spoke about EU and I didnt said that archers are useless, ofc. I would hire as much as I can )

I'm saying if you don't hire shielders, advancing and taking any village already owned by another faction would become near-suicide due to the hailstorm that you lack the shields to advance on. 2Hers are great for shock troops and going into the frey and keeping up the momentum, but without shielders to push that first advance, things get messy very quickly.

The Fallen scored some absurdly easy victories in the past when we fought foes trying to take villages who did not have any substantial amount of shielders, simply because we threw up a hailstorm of projectiles.

My response was about when you said:

Most shielders cant get good kd, some shielders can get good kd on eu1, few shielders from time to time in strategus.
If I had to equip my army in strategus I would not buy anything for shielders and would not hire any, maybe only Itosai and Dalhi.

[Vote]

I'm saying if you don't hire shielders, advancing and taking any village already owned by another faction would become near-suicide due to the hailstorm that you lack the shields to advance on. 2Hers are great for shock troops and going into the frey and keeping up the momentum, but without shielders to push that first advance, things get messy very quickly.

The Fallen scored some absurdly easy victories in the past when we fought foes trying to take villages who did not have any substantial amount of shielders, simply because we threw up a hailstorm of projectiles.

My response was about when you said:

Cheap shields are enough, it isnt equipment for shielders, its for 2h/polearm.
If you US guys had enough archers to counter DRZ, you had won more battles.

[Tears of Destiny]

Cheap shields are enough, it isnt equipment for shielders, its for 2h/polearm.
If you US guys had enough archers to counter DRZ, you had won more battles.

Wait, you are going to use 0 skill shields then for strat battles? Since the vast majority of 2Hers and Poles don't have any shield skill...

Seriously?

How experienced are you in Strat? This all sounds rather odd.

[Vote]

Wait, you are going to use 0 skill shields then for strat battles? Since the vast majority of 2Hers and Poles don't have any shield skill...

Seriously?

How experienced are you in Strat? This all sounds rather odd.

0 or 1 shield skill shields.
Look I think its much better to use own fire support against enemy archers.

[Tears of Destiny]

Look I think its much better to use own fire support.

Mind if I ask of your opinion on playing an archer hunting other archers who are in defensible positions? I'm rather genuinely curious on this.

[Vote]

Mind if I ask of your opinion on playing an archer hunting other archers who are in defensible positions? I'm rather genuinely curious on this.

You can use terrain, siege shields you can tell your clan members to put 2 points in shield skill and buy them plain board shields, you can have more ranged troops than enemy, you can use some tactics. Its my opinion, deal with it.

[Tears of Destiny]

You can use terrain, siege shields you can tell your clan members to put 2 points in shield skill and buy them plain board shields, you can have more ranged troops than enemy, you can use some tactics. Its my opinion, deal with it.

Oh I am dealing with it, this is just me having complete and utter fascination with your very unique opinion.
I'm hoping that by now successfully derailing this silly "petition" everyone will forget about it and just stop posting in this thread, or at the very least forget about the thread's original purpose and keep it very much off-topic. Thank you for so easily helping me, Mr. Vote.

Yes, I agree that this might be viable if you have your entire clan put two points in shield skill and encourage enough other clans in large enough numbers to do the same so you can hire them to your roster as well on a continual and reliable basis.

[JackieChan]

Jacki you bastard, you do it all the time Renegate not that often but still like very 3rd attack and only because of that fighting you guys is a pain in the a**

It is not animation aboose but knowing exactly how the game mechanics work!

Hey! im only using advantages that my class offers, same as lancers with bump lancing and pole with polestagger/broken animation

Comming back to the topic, its true that i use the left attack often, but people just need to learn how to counter act it. I sometime vary the attack becasue enemies actually find a way to fight the left spam(why is easy to do). I dont think its a negative thing. In addition, only a handful of shielders actually using that "feature" on EU. So i dont think it should me nerfed in any way.

[Angantyr]

It's a nice attack (like so many others) but 1handers still feels as one of the more well-balanced classes.

[Mala]

This is now a petition for a 1h stab buff.

Who's with me?

For a better stab? Sure.

[Jarlek]

The left chamber of a 1hander is slower than a 2h, but the left swing of a 1h is faster than a 2h. So if it's a regular swing, the 2h will hit first. If the attack is already chambered, the 1h hit first. I hope I didn't make this too confusing.

Interesting. Is there a complete list somewhere?