Internal poleaxe balance

[Swaggart]

Increase the speed of the elegant by 1 and it should balance out nicely. It does have the nicest secondary mode IIRC. My alt uses a regular poleaxe and the secondary on that is as slow as old people fuck.

Also, you can't seriously expect to have a balance discussion about poleaxes with only poleaxe users. You're basically asking the people that are most biased. Even if you think you are not biased you are the primary benenficiary and anyone on the opposite end is screwed. If you cannot allow negative opinions and can't defend from their arguments, then yours have no merit. Otherwise you don't have a discussion, it's just a poleaxe circlejerk.

[Smoothrich]

don't buff the elegant, nerf the regular poleaxe, god damn

make it unbalanced at the very least

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

I already said it pierce armor better than sword, but it does not mean it deal more damage - quite the opposite against unarmored opponent.

Also kafein, yes - chances are you'll die. Question is, how fast ? And wider wound means more internal bleeding and greater chance to hit vital spot.

Lactose, they are LONG, aren't unbalanced, have BONUS AGAINST SHIELDS and respectable damage (including stab) - and great reach. Not to mention good speed and cool damage against heavy armor.

well you do know they are the best weapon of the polearm category right? its normal that they have decent stats...

and :

Polearm
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Heavy Lance (mounted)             5,726,522  34.20%
Long Spear                        998,948    5.97%
Great Long Axe                    889,619    5.31%
Heavy Lance                       596,483    3.56%
War Spear                         590,172    3.53%
Lance (mounted)                   518,207    3.10%
Awlpike                           473,112    2.83%
Pike                              422,081    2.52%
Long Hafted Blade                 404,460    2.42%
Long War Axe                      374,745    2.24%
Swiss Halberd                     350,430    2.09%
Long Awlpike                      343,742    2.05%
Bamboo Spear                      331,902    1.98%
Light Lance (mounted)             326,311    1.95%
Poleaxe                           316,071    1.89%
German Poleaxe                    297,916    1.78%
Ashwood Pike                      292,283    1.75%
Bec de Corbin                     286,733    1.71%
Elegant Poleaxe                   257,043    1.54%
Great Long Bardiche               244,530    1.46%
Long Bardiche                     224,579    1.34%
Glaive                            221,397    1.32%
Long Maul                         197,794    1.18%
Quarter Staff                     185,474    1.11%
Great Lance (mounted)             175,944    1.05%
Scythe                            152,193    0.91%
Light Lance                       138,325    0.83%
Long Axe                          128,516    0.77% 
etc.

they are not that popular, not considered that op except maybe for poleaxe....

guys it's very nice to speak that a pleaxe would piirce better then a sword but if a sword peirces it would do more internal damage, this is kind of pointless...

and i want to make a reminder, this an internal poleaxe balance, poleaxe between them. if you have persqonnal grievance towards these weapon please create a thread of your own.

the elegant poelaxe is the most costly but is considered as the worst poleaxe

[Teeth]

Lactose, they are LONG, aren't unbalanced, have BONUS AGAINST SHIELDS and respectable damage (including stab) - and great reach. Not to mention good speed and cool damage against heavy armor.

So they are long and have great reach? Truly a diverse weapon.

That is actually not true. The elegant poleaxe is rather short.

[BlackMilk]

132 isn't rather short at all

[Teeth]

its about 112 in 2h numbers. Its shorter than the greatsword family.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

its about 112 in 2h numbers. Its shorter than the greatsword family.

and the german one.

the 2h just outranges you all the time, on every swing. and you jsut slighlty outreach 1 handers

[kono yaro!]

+shorter stab reach

[BlackMilk]

INTERNAL POLEAXE BALANCE STOP TALKIN ABOUT GREATSWORDS NOOBS LEARN2READLEARN2READLEARN2READLEARN2READLEARN2READLEARN2READLEARN2READ!!!!!

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

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[Jarlek]

Blackmilk once tried to explain to me how OP polearms are to twohanders because of the damage of the polearm stab. Now, I'm not saying that the damage isn't higher, but when he used the elegant poleaxe's stab (the highest stab damage of the swinging polearms) and compared it to the stab of, not the german (which would be logical), but the claymore...

Makes perfect sense to compare those!

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TL;DR: Don't listen to blackmilk. He's special.

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

TL;DR: Don't listen to blackmilk. He's special.

yea he's pming me now telling me to l2p...

[Tears of Destiny]

Blackmilk, I rarely get the chance to say this so I have to leap on it, but...

You are one of the few people on these forums more retarded then me...

Think on that.

[BlackMilk]

ToD : how so?

I said that the elegant poleaxe and the german are fine but the poleaxe needs a nerf.

Jarlek what are you talking about? You got any proof maybe? Cause I'm pretty sure I never said anything like that

Lactose : ... I told you that you need to l2p if you get outranged by 2h's constantly with your elegant poleaxe. I guess it's rather difficult to get outranged by a katana as a elegant poleaxe user

[Lactose_the_intolerant]

i use elegant when im polearm, not regular poleaxe