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IF needs love.

Nah, don't want HP tin cans. Let it stay at 2.
Sure, it's usefull then. Buff it to 3.
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IF needs love?
« on: March 04, 2011, 09:37:59 pm »
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So yeah, seen people talk about it.

Do you think ironflesh needs a buff, going to 3hp?

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2011, 05:29:42 pm »
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Anyone wants to post his arguments?

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2011, 06:57:48 pm »
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Someone had a good idea of it being like this

1 Point of IF = 1 Hp
2 Point of IF = 2 Hp
3 Point of IF = 4 Hp
4 Point of IF = 8 Hp
5 Point of IF = 16 Hp
6 Point of IF = 24 Hp
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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2011, 07:05:15 pm »
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..Nnnoo. IF is fine as is: if you got 24 HP from 6 points, that'd be overpowered. Iron Flesh is perfect now because you can go without it, but you'll die a lot of times when you would've survived.
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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2011, 07:14:31 pm »
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Yeah, Korgoth's suggestion would just make it mandatory for every build, because it would be just too good to skip.

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2011, 07:20:09 pm »
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i would make it the other way around, so we wouldnt see 100 hp builds, but it would be usefull instead of just a random skill

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2011, 08:16:41 pm »
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Someone had a good idea of it being like this

1 Point of IF = 1 Hp
2 Point of IF = 2 Hp
3 Point of IF = 4 Hp
4 Point of IF = 8 Hp
5 Point of IF = 16 Hp
6 Point of IF = 24 Hp

it was more like:
1 Point of IF = 1 Hp
2 Point of IF = 2 Hp
3 Point of IF = 3 Hp
4 Point of IF = 4 Hp
5 Point of IF = 5 Hp
6 Point of IF = 6 Hp
7 Point of IF = 7 Hp

so you would get 28 HP instead of 14 HP

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2011, 08:23:32 pm »
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it was more like:
1 Point of IF = 1 Hp
2 Point of IF = 2 Hp
3 Point of IF = 3 Hp
4 Point of IF = 4 Hp
5 Point of IF = 5 Hp
6 Point of IF = 6 Hp
7 Point of IF = 7 Hp

so you would get 28 HP instead of 14 HP

too much life for high str builds

this is a used build:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 36
Agility: 3
Hit points: 93
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 11
Power Strike: 12
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

imaging this with those if stats!

you'd have something like 140 hp
« Last Edit: March 05, 2011, 08:26:22 pm by Torp »

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2011, 08:32:20 pm »
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it was more like:
1 Point of IF = 1 Hp
2 Point of IF = 2 Hp
3 Point of IF = 3 Hp
4 Point of IF = 4 Hp
5 Point of IF = 5 Hp
6 Point of IF = 6 Hp
7 Point of IF = 7 Hp

so you would get 28 HP instead of 14 HP

Yeh that was it. I think this way is better
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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2011, 08:38:57 pm »
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too much life for high str builds

this is a used build:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 36
Agility: 3
Hit points: 93
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 11
Power Strike: 12
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 0
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

imaging this with those if stats!

you'd have something like 140 hp
I dont believe anyone is playing such a build.. I played 24/15 and it was horrible

but you might be right perhaps its too much hp and would be abused like anything abusable ^^

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2011, 08:40:20 pm »
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I dont believe anyone is playing such a build.. I played 24/15 and it was horrible

but you might be right perhaps its too much hp and would be abused like anything abusable ^^

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2011, 08:42:14 pm »
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I have a 29/9 build that uses only a 1 handed sword, its awesome and very good.
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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2011, 08:47:11 pm »
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I have a 29/9 build that uses only a 1 handed sword, its awesome and very good.

ehm... what is the idea of having 29 strenght?

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2011, 08:59:37 pm »
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I have a 29/9 build that uses only a 1 handed sword, its awesome and very good.

you make a fine target for my mighty long maul  :mrgreen:

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Re: IF needs love?
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2011, 09:03:36 pm »
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That is if you survive the stab in your face with 9 powerstrike...

ehm... what is the idea of having 29 strenght?

Miscalculation, anyways I am retiring next level I am a powerhouse and those puny agi stackers die in 2 hit maximum
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