IF needs love?

[Polobow]

IronFlesh should be a natural armor value, not hp based.  Maybe 2 pts of armor for head, body, legs for every pt of IF.  In the end, a build with 8 IF could run around naked and still have basic light armor of 16 head/body/legs, or just wear light armor also adding its own value making it more of a medium wear. 

This will allow even more viability for say a barbarian build as well.

It also would take away from IF being perceived as only useful when wearing heavy armor - as well as the fact people wearing heavy armor would have even higher armor counts now.

Good idea! But what about speed reduction? Will that IF armor count to speed penalty or an exception?

[Thtb]

Increasing either IF or the base hp would be a good step towards balancing some high dmg ranged weapons and easy first hitters, like the katana.

[Nemeth]

Increasing either IF or the base hp would be a good step towards balancing some high dmg ranged weapons and easy first hitters, like the katana.

Right, because they need balancing.... Why exactly?

[UrLukur]

3hp per level sound like decent idea. Ironflesh is infantry forte, and currently it's somehow lackluster.

[Magikarp]

I'd say let it add +1 armour and +1hp per point instead of +2 health.

[Khalim]

It would be a nice idea to buff HIGHER levels of IF.

Lets say you should have at least have +3 Ironskin to gain an additional advantage.

The values might then look like this:

IF1: +2
+4
+6
+9(!)
+12
+15
and so on

[Thtb]

Right, because they need balancing.... Why exactly?

The possibility to kill/be killed with one hit on long range runs counter-intuitive to being new and less skilled player friendly...

(to put it simply: Mount and blade, not bow and arrow or "well go play OP:F if you want one hit kills")

This subject is expanded on in the "To much damage overall?" topic
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2711.45.html

[Xant]

Katana is an easy first hitter?

weapon length 95

l2p

[Thtb]

Xant is that all you do? Post the same "u are bad player" comment in every thread, but never add anything to the topic?
0/10 trolling

Anyway, let me give you a hand ... besides the point that 95 is about average (slightly in b4 "no the average is 96 durrr") for a sword, speed is its main strength... if you are having problems with using your own weapon of choice, attempt to maybe block (move your mouse/movement key into the same direction as the enemy swing and hit right  mouse) the first strike, don't worry if you don't manage to do it at first, it takes some practice.

You are welcome to this little lesson on learning  how to play, I hope you appreciate it.

[Xant]

... Average for a 2h sword would be closer to 120.

Btw, you can come teach me how to play in the duel server?

[Gurnisson]

He's actually right, your posts never contributes anything to the threads. It's just arrogant bullshit.

[Thtb]

*sighs* Already there... use pms for that kinda private message next time (thats what pm means btw)

[Xant]

> said the one dedicating his whole post to something that could've been sent in a PM

And nice job ignoring the fact that 95 "isn't" the average length for 2h.

[Thtb]

I'm in the duel server, you are not... waiting, I could be leveling up just as well, this char is pretty freshly retired...

[Xant]

I'm in the duel server, you are not... waiting, I could be leveling up just as well, this char is pretty freshly retired...

Mmkay, come Ndition, low level at cRPG now.