Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow

[Nemeth]

I get 1 shot several times from sniper xbow with an armor around 45 and no not headshot so it happens.

This is with a character with 21 strength, body armor 45 but no IF still a xbow shouldn't be able to 1 shot apart of headshot easily but probably nothing will be done anyway.

I have hard time believing you, as I can't one shot light armored archers with my crossbow, unless point blank. 45 armor is banded armor, I can tell you I have never managed to one hit guy in that kind of armor.

[Vexus]

Probably was heirloomed the xbow but it does happen and is annoying honestly.

[Nemeth]

As I said, I have mw sniper xbow, still I never one shotted anything above tunic over mail unless the guy was low level or nijna (read agi whore).

[Banok]

Quoted for turth!

quoted for bias (fasader has master sniper if i;m not mistaken ;)

 at the armour effected reload/accuracy arguement I'm not even going to bother its so fucking obvious already.

[Fasader]

I had a mw sniper prepatch. mighty 109(105+4)p! and tincans still survived 2 shots

[Elmetiacos]

People are arguing this from the wrong point of view: it's not the worth of a crossbow to an individual that's the problem, it's the ease of use making the number of them constantly increase until, when you have a full server, the sky is black with arrows and bolts which in turn encourages more infantry to go ranged hybrid and so on, in a vicious circle. For the dedicated infantry and cavalry, who are essentially the ones Mount and Blade is supposed to focus on after all, this means you spend half the battle cowering behind your shield or a wall or riding round the edge of the map to avoid all the shooting, only taking part in the mopping up operation at the end.

[Gorath]

For the dedicated infantry and cavalry, who are essentially the ones Mount and Blade is supposed to focus on after all

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Post a link to the game developers stating this.  It's a false argument and you know it.  Native wouldn't have archer and x-bowmen classes otherwise.  Ranged is an equal third of the game, both SP and MP.

[Cup1d]

Post a link to the game developers stating this.  It's a false argument and you know it.  Native wouldn't have archer and x-bowmen classes otherwise.  Ranged is an equal third of the game, both SP and MP.

Not a third. Half.

One Handed:
Two Handed:
Polearm:
Archery:
Crossbow:
Throwing:

[Fasader]

Not a third. Half.

One Handed:
Two Handed:
Polearm:
Archery:
Crossbow:
Throwing:

sorry bro

1h sword
1h axe
1h mace
1h pick
2h sword
2h axe
2h maul
2h mace
staff
poleaxe
spear
hafted blade
hafted mace


bow
crossbow
throwing axe
throwing knife
javelin

[Heroin]

It's not good that almost anyone is using a ranged weapon and it's less good that you can 1 shot with a sniper so easily but this I could slip it off since in crpg they have such a slow reload unlike native.

Can you be one-shotted with an xbow? Yes. Is it "easy"? Definitely not.

I have a masterwork sniper xbow and triple heirloomed steel bolts. Would I one-shot your 21 str, ZERO ironflesh character while wearing medium-light armor(45 body armor is mail hauberk + mail gauntlets)? Sometimes, sure. But not at medium to long range. You are rocking a pretty low HP build, at only 48 HP. I suspect that there are LOTS of things that one-shot you. But that has more to do with your choice to have a relatively fragile build than any of those weapons being OP.

The moral of this story is, most people don't die to one shot, even from my triple loomed xbow plus triple loomed bolts.

Oh yeah, and for the record, my xbow character has about 150 wpf in xbows.

[Vexus]

This is an old thread but for your info with 21 strength and 0 IF you would have 56 hp not 48

[Gnjus]

sorry bro

1h sword
1h axe
1h mace
1h pick
2h sword
2h axe
2h maul
2h mace
staff
poleaxe
spear
hafted blade
hafted mace


bow
crossbow
throwing axe
throwing knife
javelin

Dedicated bundle of stickss cant do the maths, Fasa..... 

[Heroin]

This is an old thread but for your info with 21 strength and 0 IF you would have 56 hp not 48

I don't believe that this has been confirmed publically. You're assuming HP starts at 38 by default. I was basing it off of starting at 30. I was probably wrong. But any way you flip it, you have ZERO ironflesh, and CHOSE to have a lower HP build. With 21 STR, I'm guessing that you probably converted 8 points. If that is the case, you could have altered your build by having 1 less Power X, and instead had 6 levels of ironflesh, which would give you 12 hp; 9 hp more than the conversions to strength gave you.

Those 9 hp would likely save you from being one-shotted by a loomed sniper xbow.

My biggest issue with people who whine about being one-shotted(not calling you in particular a whiner), is that the majority of the time, they don't design their build with surviveability/HP in mind, and just think that NO ONE should be one-shotted, even if they have a build with relatively few hitpoints.

My opinion? If you give up IF to get another 3 strength/agi, so that you can get more PS/PD/ATH/WM, then you're giving up all those extra HP, and should be conceding to the fact that by doing so, you are more likely to be killed more quickly by high damage weapons. It's a tradeoff. We should all learn to love tradeoffs, since that is the trademark of a good, balanced RPG character development system.

EDIT: And yeah, this thread is relatively old, but the arguments within it are still current, since there hasn't been a patch since it was started. And for the record, I'm not the one who resurrected it.

[Darkkarma]

post edited and removed in the midst of all the futility.

[Vexus]

Actually my "whining" like I said is not in general about the xbow damage but that it's easy to use even with 1 wpf hence why almost everyone has one nowadays.