Xbow, xbow, fashion xbow

[Banok]

make armour effect xbow wpf.

[Gorath]

make armour effect xbow wpf.

Completely illogical.  Bows require manual dexterity in order to use properly.  Melee weapons require manual dexterity in order to use properly.  Xbows are point and pull trigger.  Like a gun.  Any pleb with a working finger and shoulder can point and shoot.  Aim is simply a matter of training where to put the sights in order to hit the target you're looking at (wpf).  Armor would not, and does not hinder this process in the slightest EXCEPT for possibly the close faced helmets impairing your vision.  Other than that, I refer you to:
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If your guantlets/gloves allow you to make a fist that can grip a sword, you can pull a crossbow lever to fire it without issue.

[UrLukur]

Completely illogical.  Bows require manual dexterity in order to use properly.  Melee weapons require manual dexterity in order to use properly.  Xbows are point and pull trigger.  Like a gun.  Any pleb with a working finger and shoulder can point and shoot.  Aim is simply a matter of training where to put the sights in order to hit the target you're looking at (wpf).  Armor would not, and does not hinder this process in the slightest EXCEPT for possibly the close faced helmets impairing your vision.  Other than that, I refer you to:
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If your guantlets/gloves allow you to make a fist that can grip a sword, you can pull a crossbow lever to fire it without issue.

How easy is reloading in cased gauntlets ?

[Gorath]

How easy is reloading in cased gauntlets ?

Not hard at all.  Again, if you can make a fist you're golden.  Put foot in stirrup, make a fist around the string, pull back until it locks behind the trigger, then put the bolt on and you're good.

x-bows weren't hard to use at all, hell you could have hooks for hands and still use and reload them find (except the winched ones, but still make a fist and use the crank handles).

[UrLukur]

Not hard at all.  Again, if you can make a fist you're golden.  Put foot in stirrup, make a fist around the string, pull back until it locks behind the trigger, then put the bolt on and you're good.

x-bows weren't hard to use at all, hell you could have hooks for hands and still use and reload them find (except the winched ones, but still make a fist and use the crank handles).

Putting bolt where it should be is harder than without them. Operating with cased gauntlets is also harder than without, so speed of it decrease. I don't think it should affect accuracy, but reloading time surely.

[Nemeth]

make armour effect xbow wpf.

This will only screw over dedicated xbowmen. They need better armor than, say, archers, cause they are forced to melee much more often.

[UrLukur]

Balance wise gauntlets and helmet should affect xbow and throwing, not torso armor and leg armor (i don't think those two should affect melee proficiency as much as they do either).

[Gorath]

Putting bolt where it should be is harder than without them. Operating with cased gauntlets is also harder than without, so speed of it decrease. I don't think it should affect accuracy, but reloading time surely.

Not really.  It really is as simple as "Can you make a closed hand with the gloves you're wearing?"  If so you can operate an x-bow with just as much ease as someone with bare hands.  In my RP days we'd play around with a hand drawn x-bow along with our bows and shoot at targets.  X-bows really are retard simple to use and reload.

[Banok]

and aiming through a helmet is totally logical.

[Gorath]

and aiming through a helmet is totally logical.

This I agree with.  But the problem therein is that the game makes no distinction between close faced helmets and open faced helmets.

[Nemeth]

Balance wise gauntlets and helmet should affect xbow and throwing, not torso armor and leg armor (i don't think those two should affect melee proficiency as much as they do either).

That has nothing to do with balance, but with trying to project real life into game.

[Greziz]

I laugh so fucken hard when I get shot in the face with sniper and heavy crossbows and live now adays I rock lordly gothic bevor 14 head armor with a great helm for 53 more head armor 30 str 7 if and I tend to live with about a quarter to a tenth of my hp depending on how heirloomed their xbow is and how far away they were.

[Casimir]

You all know armour weight has rffect on WPF already. Right? Unless xbow wpf is a random exception to the rule?

[Nemeth]

You all know armour weight has rffect on WPF already. Right? Unless xbow wpf is a random exception to the rule?

It is an exception.

[Casimir]

Well thats just fucking stupid.