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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2012, 10:59:11 am »
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Remove heirlooms an market an make a gold reset for epic win an use of the upkeep system
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I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2012, 02:11:48 pm »
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Don't know why people complain about loom prices, 'cause it's kind of a good thing. A noobie can retire once and sell their loompoint for 600k. They'll never have to worry about upkeep ever again. Hell, they can sell a loompoint and buy a +1 item right after that and make a profit.

Or, you could retire 3 times get yourself a MW weapon and play the market like everyone else.

The prices aren't really outrageous when you realize you're not so much buying an item as you are buying someone else's time.
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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2012, 03:11:48 pm »
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In an effort to decrease heirloom prices, I encourage everyone to refuse to buy any heirlooms priced more than 500k per loom. Eventually, if everyone participates there will be a passive decrease in prices until they get to a less ridiculous level. With each passing day more heirlooms are created, thus prices should be going down anyway.

So join me, in an effort to reunite Calradia. Or something like that.

I wonder what is the part of the people that agree on this that ever sold a loom point. I think I can be certain that it is higher than the proportion of economics graduates among those yesmen. Just like any embargo, it works if you have means to force people not to buy/to buy things. You don't do trades without a seller, or without a buyer.

Ask who's seriously willing to sell heirloom points for 500k gold. And enjoy the silence.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2012, 03:23:57 pm »
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I hate the fucking prices. I hate leveling, I don't want to ever retire again, but that seems to be the only way to ever get me more loompoints. The prices increase faster than I earn money. Guess 7 loompoints is all I'll ever have.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2012, 03:27:29 pm »
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I would like to see full wipe. It will make things fresh again.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2012, 03:30:53 pm »
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I hate the fucking prices. I hate leveling, I don't want to ever retire again, but that seems to be the only way to ever get me more loompoints. The prices increase faster than I earn money. Guess 7 loompoints is all I'll ever have.

I hate fighting people that constantly have a 4 level advantage over me, and an even bigger one during half my playtime (yes this is accurate for me. I would be level 34 now if I hadn't retired at all). Heirlooms only very slightly make up for that.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2012, 03:34:22 pm »
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What level were you before upkeep patch?

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2012, 03:37:59 pm »
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Best way to decrease heirloom prices is to have all the prisoners in a chinese prison farm heirlooms 24/7 and sell them cheaply for a dollar a piece.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2012, 03:38:42 pm »
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I already suggested that. They said no.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2012, 03:40:29 pm »
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What level were you before upkeep patch?

Good question. Somewhere around 38 iirc. But it doesn't matter a lot. I downleveled to ~28 after the patch.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2012, 04:15:30 pm »
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Well, at the same time I was level 30. That's 8 level difference, between me and you. And between me and let's say Ujin, there was 13 level difference. I didn't mind that at all. Also had no looms and had normal ninja build. Was very satisfied. Four level difference can be pretty big if the build in question is one of those min-maxing builds (like STR oriented builds). Otherwise difference isn't that big.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2012, 04:16:37 pm »
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OP=cheapo

don't listen to this nonsense, there is no heirloom bubble! Heirlooms are an investment! Buy them no matter what!

I insist you add a feature where I can take out loans using my current heirlooms as collateral (receive 90% of their value as credit) so I can speculate and buy more heirlooms with that money.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2012, 04:20:41 pm »
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I hate fighting people that constantly have a 4 level advantage over me, and an even bigger one during half my playtime (yes this is accurate for me. I would be level 34 now if I hadn't retired at all). Heirlooms only very slightly make up for that.
I hate that too, hence the stopping retiring. Maybe you should do that too. Recently reached lvl 32 and man, 21/21 is amazing. Its just that changing class is going to make my cry.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2012, 04:37:34 pm »
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I insist you add a feature where I can take out loans using my current heirlooms as collateral (receive 90% of their value as credit) so I can speculate and buy more heirlooms with that money.

sounds like a valid request. I'll see what I can do.

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Re: Anti-inflation Movement
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2012, 04:45:53 pm »
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OP=cheapo

don't listen to this nonsense, there is no heirloom bubble! Heirlooms are an investment! Buy them no matter what!
you're just trying to drag us through the bad economie  :mrgreen:
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