archery..

[Gurnisson]

lol way to know how to play your role.

Yes, no person with a shield should be able to kill an archer! Oh wait..

[Herkkutatti]

slow, inaccurate shooting

WTF?!?!!?

[Memento_Mori]

Yes, no person with a shield should be able to kill an archer! Oh wait..

lol are you serious? He's using a cardboard box as a shield obviously.

& since when did SHIELDS counter RUNNING ARCHERS lol all I see is a stalemate.

What kills archers guys? WHAT KILLS THOSE RUNNING BASTARDS.

Plz add INT attribute so we can close this thread down finally.

[POOPHAMMER]

I personally feel like melee is ruining the game. I can not count how many times I have gotten killed by melee weapons. When I am on my archer alt, it baffles me how OP melee is, they have the ability to knock down, crush through, rear horses, spam polestun, and do ludicrous damage while doing so. Then on top of all of that, they do not even need to invest a single point into agility! Pumping up the power strike has no effect on their ability to swing! They also can stack on sickening layers of plate padded with ironflesh on top of the absurd HP bonus from strength stacking!

Nerf melee, buff archery.

[Gurnisson]

lol are you serious? He's using a cardboard box as a shield obviously.

& since when did SHIELDS counter RUNNING ARCHERS lol all I see is a stalemate.

What kills archers guys? WHAT KILLS THOSE RUNNING BASTARDS.

Plz add INT attribute so we can close this thread down finally.

Throwing and xbows which are both very weak compared to archers. Buff throwing and buff xbows, or nerf archers.

Nah, can't really care too much about this. If they had buffed the missile speed but nerfed their kiting abilities I would've liked that. And buff non-loomed archery a wee bit.

[Moncho]

WTF?!?!!?

Go to native

lol are you serious? He's using a cardboard box as a shield obviously.

& since when did SHIELDS counter RUNNING ARCHERS lol all I see is a stalemate.

What kills archers guys? WHAT KILLS THOSE RUNNING BASTARDS.

Plz add INT attribute so we can close this thread down finally.

As a shielder I disagree, as an archer alt, I disagree even more.
If I am the last one in my team on my archer alt and there are 2-3 2h/pole guys, ill run and shoot them, but if theres a shielder, I might be able to kill the non-shielded, but ill probably lose overall, so i just engage and die.
As a shielder, you have to remember to put that wooden thing in between the arrows and your body, its not that hard, its holding the rmb. You might not get to him, but he cant shoot you around it (unless you mess it up). Eventually, unless he is an ass and draws, he will risk it more than necessary and youll hit him, or youll release your precious rmb and get shot, so no.

[Tears of Destiny]

Yes, no person with a shield should be able to kill an archer! Oh wait..

Well see this part confuses me.

Rufio wears no heavy armour and is even on the bit side of light for a front-line melee (previously stated that his total body armour was 40), and he even has lower HP then normal (not even 60) for a front-line infantry.
Our Fallen_Smiling_Daemon managed to make a shielder that had low HP (50), wore decent armour (totaled around 50, very respectable), and still managed to be able to catch and consistently kill archers (or at the very least be fast enough that they could never turn around and shoot with any effectiveness). Smiling proved that a shielder could be able to kill archers and still be deadly against normal infantry, just as Matey did when he was still that irritating Huscarl speed build from hell.

So the question is, if Rufio has low HP and low Armour, then how does he also have low enough athletics to not ward off archers and/or low enough shield skill that his shield breaks against a simple bowman?

[Memento_Mori]

Throwing and xbows which are both very weak compared to archers. Buff throwing, buff xbows, nerf archers.

True lol

You could throw some cav in there too but they have to be smart and wait for the archer to start running away or be completely off guard (tunnel visioned)


Personally on my melee infantry character (with no cardboard box to protect me) & 0 iron flesh, ranged is my bane and I have to play accordingly. But unlike Rufio here, I enjoy it.

As a shielder I disagree, as an archer alt, I disagree even more.
If I am the last one in my team on my archer alt and there are 2-3 2h/pole guys, ill run and shoot them, but if theres a shielder, I might be able to kill the non-shielded, but ill probably lose overall, so i just engage and die.

Yeah I was being over dramatic trying out my silly-wit Especially with the "WHAT KILLS THESE RUNNING BASTARDS" lol
I have no issues with archers I find them annoying when they run away from me, but yeah what can you expect them to do? just stand still and let you kill them? lol.

[XyNox]

Well see this part confuses me.

Rufio wears no heavy armour and is even on the bit side of light for a front-line melee (previously stated that his total body armour was 40), and he even has lower HP then normal (not even 60) for a front-line infantry.
Our Fallen_Smiling_Daemon managed to make a shielder that had low HP (50), wore decent armour (totaled around 50, very respectable), and still managed to be able to catch and consistently kill archers (or at the very least be fast enough that they could never turn around and shoot with any effectiveness). Smiling proved that a shielder could be able to kill archers and still be deadly against normal infantry, just as Matey did when he was still that irritating Huscarl speed build from hell.

So the question is, if Rufio has low HP and low Armour, then how does he also have low enough athletics to not ward off archers and/or low enough shield skill that his shield breaks against a simple bowman?

I could imagine he stuffed everything into riding, and this is why:

Steadily going crazy because of archery, rufio was trying to find new ways of outsmarting his ranged foes. As neither dodging, using cover, tactics nor shields achieved the desirable effect he spent all his points on riding as a last resort, though he has no horse. I guess out of insanity he was illusionating that once your riding skill is high enough you can hop on an incoming arrow right before it hits you and fly to the skies on its back. To a foreign land where clouds are pink and archers are shooting marshmallow arrows.

Plausible ?

[Leshma]

We need two things.

1) 10 and less total weight limit for maximum active wpp (instead of 7 weight)
2) more 1 slot two handed weapons and polearms and more 0 slot one handed weapons

It's buff for ranged classes but also to AGI chars.

Do it!

[PanPan]

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We need two things.

1) 10 and less total weight limit for maximum active wpp (instead of 7 weight)
2) more 1 slot two handed weapons and polearms and more 0 slot one handed weapons

It's buff for ranged classes but also to AGI chars.

Do it!

Yea less running Archers. (wich is guud  )

[Tzar]

Archery is fine stop crying like little girls 

1. learn to live with Archery is counter for cav 2h/pole/1h/xbow/Thrower

2. Its your own fault for not goin archer to counter other archers

3. Get a shield noob!!!

[Rumblood]

Well see this part confuses me.

So the question is, if Rufio has low HP and low Armour, then how does he also have low enough athletics to not ward off archers and/or low enough shield skill that his shield breaks against a simple bowman?

One does wonder. Perhaps he should stop respeccing back to level 10 after every round 

[rufio]

to clear things up im 21/21 7if7ath7ps7wm 167 in 2hander 1 shield soon to be 4 shield in 54mil xp, 48h55b48l

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nerfarcherynerfnerfnerf

[Rumblood]

7 athletics and not being able to catch an archer, while being riddled with shield breaking arrows?

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