archery..

[Gurnisson]

We need more archers. Someone has to stop those courageous pikemen who are killing everyone in their path (good in duels, great in groups, epic against cavalry)

lol'd. Go use 'pike' in duels and I'll laugh at you when you fail every time. Long spear users are also easy to take down, but so many idiots believe that they can spam one even if it's a good player (Warlord, Chase, Crafty etc.) and fail horribly when they get hit while spamming. They only have one attacking direction, so if you block down until you hear the block sound every time, you can't lose (unless you go into kick-range). With the giant thrust-stun on the pike every chamberblock gives a free hit too, so that's a good way to take down a piker.

Also, epic against cav? There's no good cav that ever charge anyone in the protection range of pikes. If people stuck together pikes would fend the enemy cav away from archers/xbowmen/other inf but it's useless because of dumb teammates. I tried to play anti-cav role with pikes, but cav just picks off the ones outside your reach while you can't do shit. Pikes don't counter cav, they fend them off, they're not good in duels against anyone who are decent at the game. However, they're insanely good at supporting and very vulnerable to ranged units like you stated too.

[zagibu]

Come on, devs, we almost have 50 pages of posts supporting archery nerf now, DO SOMETHING!

[Cup1d]

Do you think that any sane developer wanna stop this Klondike of fun? All this «Nerf» and «Buff» threads is delicacies for our merry devteam.

[Herkkutatti]

Come on, devs, we almost have 50 pages of posts supporting archery nerf now, DO SOMETHING!

[Tavuk_Bey]

buff my arbalest please, tnx bye

[Herkkutatti]

buff my arbalest please, tnx bye

Yes buff xbow damage, it's ridiculous how rus/horn bow does more damage than mw xbow with steelbolts.... and bows are even so much faster so it makes it even more ridiculous.

[Leshma]

lol'd. Go use 'pike' in duels and I'll laugh at you when you fail every time. Long spear users are also easy to take down, but so many idiots believe that they can spam one even if it's a good player (Warlord, Chase, Crafty etc.) and fail horribly when they get hit while spamming. They only have one attacking direction, so if you block down until you hear the block sound every time, you can't lose (unless you go into kick-range). With the giant thrust-stun on the pike every chamberblock gives a free hit too, so that's a good way to take down a piker.

Also, epic against cav? There's no good cav that ever charge anyone in the protection range of pikes. If people stuck together pikes would fend the enemy cav away from archers/xbowmen/other inf but it's useless because of dumb teammates. I tried to play anti-cav role with pikes, but cav just picks off the ones outside your reach while you can't do shit. Pikes don't counter cav, they fend them off, they're not good in duels against anyone who are decent at the game. However, they're insanely good at supporting and very vulnerable to ranged units like you stated too.

I'll just say this, I fear most pikemen. Especially the likes of you and Chase. Even when we're alone fighting. I also fear you when you're using any other polearm.

I have no fear when I encounter one or more players using two handed swords, no matter how good they are.

You might kill a lot of people using 2H but that doesn't mean I'll go down easily.

[Herkkutatti]

NERF

[Leshma]

Q_Q

[Ronin]

I'll just say this, I fear most pikemen. Especially the likes of you and Chase. Even when we're alone fighting. I also fear you when you're using any other polearm.

I have no fear when I encounter one or more players using two handed swords, no matter how good they are.

You might kill a lot of people using 2H but that doesn't mean I'll go down easily.

That is because pikes can be tricky weapons to use, but that works only on the chaos of the battlefield. Once it becomes 1v1 when there are two above average players, there is nothing that pikeman can do. I didn't understand why you are talking of pike either. It is because pikes are good anti-archer weapons do the their enormous range? Well yeah, they can be good anti-cav as well as anti-archer sometimes; but that case is something does not happen very often. I think we should be focusing on archery in this thread.


What I see is you guys act like bows should not kill anyone on the battlefield. Perhaps they should not do damage at all. Perhaps archery should not even exist? Well there are melee servers to keep you whiners happy. Go and play there as you want.

[Moncho]

What I see is you guys act like bows should not kill anyone on the battlefield. Perhaps they should not do damage at all. Perhaps archery should not even exist? Well there are melee servers to keep you whiners happy. Go and play there as you want.

And thats it, youve just hit the root of the problem:
What whiners think archery should be like:

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[Logen]

I have no fear when I encounter one or more players using two handed swords, no matter how good they are.

[Overdriven]

I'll just say this, I fear most pikemen. Especially the likes of you and Chase. Even when we're alone fighting. I also fear you when you're using any other polearm.

I have no fear when I encounter one or more players using two handed swords, no matter how good they are.

You might kill a lot of people using 2H but that doesn't mean I'll go down easily.

When I see chase approaching with an awlpike I pretty much crap myself. It took 6-7 PL hoplites to pen chase in and kill him. That guy is ridiculous with an awkpike. He knows how to exploit groups. 2h, even the best ones, don't scare me nearly as much (talking about when I play with my alts).

[Hellfrag]

Yes buff xbow damage, it's ridiculous how rus/horn bow does more damage than mw xbow with steelbolts.... and bows are even so much faster so it makes it even more ridiculous.

In what game?

[Son Of Odin]

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