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poles made faster if pole stun is removed?

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do not remove polestun

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Re: polestagger
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2012, 10:42:20 pm »
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Remove polestagger completely, give left swing to everything that is only stab/overhead and increase damage by 1 or so on all weapons
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Re: polestagger
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2012, 11:04:52 pm »
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I found "Long Bardiche" speed 89 to be faster then the 92 speed greatswords while having same amount of wpf. Probably equal to the 93 speed "Great Sword". I also found "Long Bardiche" to be a lot faster in changing from a swing to a block then the swords.

Long Bardiche fast? I have 20 agility with a +3 long bardiche and it's much(!) slower than my 18 agility 2H character with a regular SoW.
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Re: polestagger
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2012, 12:23:06 am »
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Use the shortened military scythe then.

There's a reason it's underpriced.

Wow, I did not know there was a two-hander with polearm thrust.  I think I'll be playing around with this for a while.  So cheap too...so cheap.  A little on the slow side though.

Edit: I love it! Give it three or four more speed and add 10,000 gold to the cost. Do eeet.
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Re: polestagger
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2012, 07:03:33 am »
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YET ANOTHER POST!Don't listen to Blackmilk. He's the biggest 2h whiner I know. You should see the retarded comparisons he makes when he tries to argue  :rolleyes:
are you okay?

why should I lobby for 2h when I'm a 1h? :)

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Re: polestagger
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2012, 04:17:34 pm »
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Long Bardiche fast? I have 20 agility with a +3 long bardiche and it's much(!) slower than my 18 agility 2H character with a regular SoW.
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Re: polestagger
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2012, 04:54:47 pm »
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why should I lobby for 2h when I'm a 1h? :)
Cause your stoooopid? :P

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Re: polestagger
« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2012, 05:03:35 pm »
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Remove some of the polestagger, and thats all that needs to be done. No need to nerf polearm or buff polearm. Polearms is a great weapon class, and maybe the most played 2h class atm?

And to the OP, how much have u played c-rpg ? Because it doesnt seem like u rly know what consequences ur buff will have.
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Re: polestagger
« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2012, 05:22:32 pm »
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Remove some of the polestagger, and thats all that needs to be done. No need to nerf polearm or buff polearm. Polearms is a great weapon class, and maybe the most played 2h class atm?
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This is what I've always said. Leave the stun for the weapons who deserve it. The spears, the forks and those with only one or two attack directions.
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Re: polestagger
« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2012, 05:26:23 pm »
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the stun?

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Re: polestagger
« Reply #69 on: January 28, 2012, 05:46:03 pm »
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Jarlek get the fuck off the forums and get back under the bridge.

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Re: polestagger
« Reply #70 on: January 28, 2012, 05:50:54 pm »
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Cause your stoooopid? :P

Because your a fanboy. We all know it.

And you're a "1h, can't block for dear life" fanboy. We all know it :P

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Re: polestagger
« Reply #71 on: January 28, 2012, 05:56:55 pm »
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yarp, jarleks reflexes is the reflexes of an old person
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Re: polestagger
« Reply #72 on: January 28, 2012, 06:58:57 pm »
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Polearms are definitely the better weapon class compared to 2h. I draw this conclusion from comparing stats, personal feel and my k/d increasing from 2.3 as a 2h to 3.0 as a polearmer.

Polearms can have the polestun removed without any buffing. Let alone the retarded +5 the OP suggested, seriously, get a feel for stats.

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Re: polestagger
« Reply #73 on: January 28, 2012, 07:12:13 pm »
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And you're a "1h, can't block for dear life" fanboy. We all know it :P
Actually I'm a 2h :P

Shit's so easy I understand you have to crutch on it ^^
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Re: polestagger
« Reply #74 on: January 28, 2012, 07:14:47 pm »
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how about changing

(rand() >= 0.5 || agent->cur_blow.damage_before_soak <= 15.0)
-> strike2 is played instead of strike3 (short stagger instead of long)

to

(victim_is_not_doing_attack_animation || agent->cur_blow.damage_before_soak <= 15.0)
-> strike2 is played instead of strike3 (short stagger instead of long)

So the random component(50%) is replaced by the condition that the target is caught "offguard" and hit during one of his attacks. This would give polearms the non-random ability to cause a stagger on a successful interception while forbidding polestagger on a defending agent.
No, even worse than random polestagger is polestagger of which you exactly know when it happens. I wouldn't even have the slightest chance against Phyrex with this. You feint, he chamber attempts your feint, hits you and then immediately does a stab cause he knows that you'll get staggered. Please add a random component to this. Do the 50% on top of the 'during an attack thing'.

Or even better, remove it altogether, there is just no need for it.

How does 'victim_is_not_doing_attack_animation' mean that someone should be hit during one of his attacks by the way. I can't help but read 'not doing attack'.