polestagger

[Snoozer]

has someone found the code?

(p.s ty all for all the links and quotes ive been afk recently so i missed some things)

[Fartface]

Well just saying i outreached dezilagel with an katana thrust....
Polearms are definatly not OP.

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I've also outreached people with a hammer. True story.

[Paul]

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(rand() >= 0.5 || agent->cur_blow.damage_before_soak <= 15.0) -> strike2 is played instead of strike3 (short stagger instead of long)

[Tzar]

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(rand() >= 0.5 || agent->cur_blow.damage_before_soak <= 15.0) -> strike2 is played instead of strike3 (short stagger instead of long)

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[Fartface]

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(rand() >= 0.5 || agent->cur_blow.damage_before_soak <= 15.0) -> strike2 is played instead of strike3 (short stagger instead of long)

Do you mind explaining im not good with formulas, all i know is that you shouldn't only take reach into account for outranging agi, wpp, speed ,reaction time and knowing your weapon makes an great differance.
Explaining this when im fighting an dude who also has an danish or german i generaly always outrange my opponents.

[Frankysan]

remove polestagger
reduce ready animation on left swing by 0.1 [this is in line with 2h]
fix the horrible length bonus we get on all kind of swings

the ready animation reduction will make 2h cry so maybe just the other 2

edit: added numbers to disgust you.

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1h
Overhead = +0
Left-to-right = +0
Right-to-left = +19
Thrust = +61

2h
Overhead = +15
Left-to-right = +17
Right-to-left = +13
Thrust = +80 (This may be slightly wrong with the new stab animation)

2h Polearms
Overhead = -15
Left-to-right = -7
Right-to-left = -2
Thrust = +19

[Ufthak]

Polearms would still have issues with how far back and to the side animations start. Glancing off of friendly shields behind you when you thrust is a lot of fun.

Balance the game around whatever Walt says!

[Leshma]

Yeah, because WaltF4 isn't dedicated polearm user

[Leshma]

personally i think pole stagger is overrated

I agree that polestagger is overrated. Speed is the real issue, polearms are already significantly faster than 2Hs with same speed rating.

But your idea is cool, lets buff speed rating of polearms by 5. It will be really interesting to see this game turning into polearms fest, wet dream of all people who like things "historical"...

These days, only retards (including me) use 2H on biggest EU server.

[Arkonor]

I agree that polestagger is overrated. Speed is the real issue, polearms are already significantly faster than 2Hs with same speed rating.

But your idea is cool, lets buff speed rating of polearms by 5. It will be really interesting to see this game turning into polearms fest, wet dream of all people who like things "historical"...

These days, only retards (including me) use 2H on biggest EU server.

I found "Long Bardiche" speed 89 to be faster then the 92 speed greatswords while having same amount of wpf. Probably equal to the 93 speed "Great Sword". I also found "Long Bardiche" to be a lot faster in changing from a swing to a block then the swords.

[Frankysan]

sorry guys but this "same speed , pole is faster" makes no sense and is false false false. And for sure a long bardiche is not faster on the block to hit speed.
If you wanna throw this in the discussion give us some numbers/test results at least.
I see numbers sayin the only real difference is in your 0.1 faster ready animation on left swing...

and Leshma is pathetic you say something like "only retards play 2h on bigger servers" when 2h are still the top killing class in 1v1 and they are topping scoreboards most of the time, i mean do you have any real fact to keep up this fake propaganda you go around screaming about?

[Leshma]

@Arkonor

While that is true, saying it just makes you look bad in the eyes of people with "true" knowledge (like Paul, Walt, Xant and other barely play c-rpg lolz).

Only way to show them that poles are faster is: make a video of you and your buddy fighting with same builds with the same amount of wpf (poles and 2H). You pick a two handed sword (95 speed rating) and tell him to pick Hafted blade (94 speed rating). Test spamability and reach. I bet that Hafted blade will outspam that silly sword with no effort at all. Also it will have longer reach although WaltF4's "tests" say otherwise...

[Apsod]

me personally i would like there to be a slight increase in the spead of polearms.

like 5 speed maybe?

5 speed is slightly faster?

With 5 speed most polearms would be at the speed of a bastard sword or a 1h.

5 speed is a massive buff.

[Frankysan]

While that is true, saying it just makes you look bad in the eyes of people with "true" knowledge (like Paul, Walt, Xant and other barely play c-rpg lolz).

Only way to show them that poles are faster is: make a video of you and your buddy fighting with same builds with the same amount of wpf (poles and 2H). You pick a two handed sword (95 speed rating) and tell him to pick Hafted blade (94 speed rating). Test spamability and reach. I bet that Hafted blade will outspam that silly sword with no effort at all. Also it will have longer reach although WaltF4's "tests" say otherwise...

canyou link walt supporting anything of this?