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Should the ranged nerf be reverted?

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #90 on: January 25, 2012, 03:50:13 pm »
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I would settle for bloody rain effects displaying correctly.

Only thing worse than rain is not even knowing that it's raining.

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #91 on: January 25, 2012, 03:53:10 pm »
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I would settle for bloody rain effects displaying correctly.

Only thing worse than rain is not even knowing that it's raining.

Would a little indicator be enough? Like a small image appearing on the HUD?

I'm sure that's possible.
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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #92 on: January 25, 2012, 03:53:35 pm »
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Poll: "Should the nerf be reverted?"
First line of the thread: "Are you happy with the game right now?"

Which am I supposed to answer? What was the poll before it was changed? My answer for the first (yes) is the complete opposite of my answer for the second (no). I answered based on the poll, but if even one person got it mixed up, the poll is skewed.

I was approaching an archer the other day. I would slightly bob and weave just to make hitting my head difficult. He hit me around 7 times in the body, and needed at least 4 more body shots to kill me. He was killed by other melee before he could get those shots off. I was wearing 68 body armor (a lot) at the time, with 50 hit points (not a lot). He told me later that he had PD 6 and was using Bodkins (think he had a Tatar bow, but I forget).

Wearing the same armor while fighting in melee, I mostly get killed in 4 to 6 hits (sometimes less). This, to me, seems unbalanced.

People keep saying they like this change because only good archers should be able to get kills. Why can't the same be said for melee? I'm not the best fighter, but I get more melee kills than crossbow kills, even before this nerf. Getting melee kills is easier. For every Balbaroth there are 10 players that can barely block.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 03:57:17 pm by Gristle »

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #93 on: January 25, 2012, 04:14:39 pm »
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Would a little indicator be enough? Like a small image appearing on the HUD?

I'm sure that's possible.

Yep that would be awesome.

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #94 on: January 25, 2012, 04:17:03 pm »
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For every Balbaroth there are 10 players that can barely block.

You play on the NA servers
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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #95 on: January 25, 2012, 04:23:05 pm »
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when you nerf archers you buff cav....

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #96 on: January 25, 2012, 04:23:22 pm »
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You play on the NA servers

Are you telling me I won't get 1 melee kill if i join EU? With 120-130 ping, I will still get kills (I will also die at lot, because I'm very skilled at dying pointlessly).

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Regardless of server, I am playing the same mod you are. This is not the time for a debate on the skills between NA and EU players.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 04:42:40 pm by Gristle »

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #97 on: January 25, 2012, 04:46:31 pm »
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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #98 on: January 25, 2012, 05:12:54 pm »
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Getting melee kills is easier.

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #99 on: January 25, 2012, 05:15:25 pm »
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You play on the NA servers

I was doing better than 1:1 on EU servers at lv20 with 160 ping and ~15% packet loss; and I'm not even that good.  I'm not saying you're bad, but I am saying that you have overinflated your sense of ability.

Can we not have the EU-NA/NA-EU mudslinging in every thread?
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 05:16:40 pm by Nehvar »
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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2012, 06:02:06 pm »
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I'm for a slight increase in body shot damage and an accuracy balance for bows.

Headshots are still very dangerous against good archers. Some of them like Saifa Qc was getting many headshots a map (almost 1shot my 24 STR, 7IF ~50 head armor character). But you can't expect anyone other than really good archers to get headshots so consistently. Mid-level archers should still be able to feel that steady rate of improvement.

I disagree with the arrows should 2-4 shot everyone, because it takes many hits for a 1h to kill one foe, too, at a medium PS.

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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2012, 07:17:23 pm »
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4 point blank shots to kill Phyrex with a masterwork arbalest.  I can't even imagine how many a light crossbow would require.  Crossbows have lost their balls.
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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #102 on: January 25, 2012, 07:23:24 pm »
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4 point blank shots to kill Phyrex with a masterwork arbalest.  I can't even imagine how many a light crossbow would require.  Crossbows have lost their balls.
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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #103 on: January 25, 2012, 07:25:41 pm »
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Would a little indicator be enough? Like a small image appearing on the HUD?

I'm sure that's possible.

Put it on the score board rather than the HUD. Either way it would be nice to have, just not on screen all the time imo
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Re: Petition to revert the ranged nerf
« Reply #104 on: January 26, 2012, 02:14:24 am »
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disarming enemys with bows doesnt help the trower,xbow and HA at all...