A Message to the Citizens of the United States of America

[Ylca]

He is all about the free market doing its job, which is exactly the opposite of what you think his economic opinions are all about.

Yeah, the Rockefeller era was superb for the average joe.

[Knute]

I've seen a few clips where Ron Paul said we should have never fought the civil war, because slavery would have gone away on it's own and it would have been more cost effective for the government to buy all the slaves(?) instead of fighting a civil war for 4 years. 

He's also spoken out against the 1964 Civil Rights Act (which legally forced the South to end racial segregation in schools/workplaces/on buses etc) because it "reduced individual liberty".  That fact that he's from the South himself and says stuff like this...I dunno.  I don't think he's racist, but statements like that are like a dog whistle for people with traitor flag bumper stickers. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbOE4Ip7In0
Talking about the civil war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvbJBHhqftc
Talking about civil rights act
 

[Stabby_Dave]

Jon Huntsman seems like a Republican that wouldnt be the worst thing to happen to the world. Hoping that either him or Ron Paul get elected is the best thing that can come out of this election.

[Konrax]

Yeah, the Rockefeller era was superb for the average joe.

Yeah because his actions were clearly in line with what his promises were.

You have a better candidate to point too?

[Nessaj]

No doubt slavery would have been abolished anyway because every human being can see it as wrong. If the South would not have been defeated no doubt they would have gone rid of it later anyway - without the bloodshed - due to pressure from countries outside or simply as to how the World was evolving. Those who think he is speaking FOR slavery should pick up a proper History Book just once (not the crap you were taught in grade/high school).

It is hard to explain these very lengthy subjects in short interviews with hosts who are hostile towards you plus on MSM programs with clear directives.

Now this is a great case though of how everything you say and do can be flipped around, anyone with half a brain can find a good argument to promote something no matter what subject, and it will always make reason to some. Exactly as how Opinion Polls are made to reflect whatever opinion those who paid for the poll want.

[okiN]

And I like the fact that he says he's personally against women getting abortions, but recognizes that it's not his right to step in and decide what other people can do with their body.  +1 for him.

You know, that's really interesting, because when I checked his campaign website, it told me this:

As a physician, Ron Paul consistently put his beliefs into practice and saved lives by helping women seek options other than abortion, including adoption.  And as President, Ron Paul will continue to fight for the same pro-life solutions he has upheld in Congress, including:

* Immediately saving lives by effectively repealing Roe v. Wade and preventing activist judges from interfering with state decisions on life by removing abortion from federal court jurisdiction through legislation modeled after his “We the People Act.”

* Defining life as beginning at conception by passing a “Sanctity of Life Act.”

Said website, by the way, is where I got most of my information about his views and policies (along with debates and interviews), and I can tell you that it wouldn't cross my mind for a second to vote for him. The guy's a fruit loop.

[CrazyCracka420]

You know, that's really interesting, because when I checked his campaign website, it told me this:

Said website, by the way, is where I got most of my information about his views and policies (along with debates and interviews), and I can tell you that it wouldn't cross my mind for a second to vote for him. The guy's a fruit loop.

Well then I fail.  I could have sworn he was against abortion personally (like he's personally against drug use) but felt people should be able to do what they wanted to their bodies as long as it didn't infringe on someone else's civil liberties.

Apparently I was wrong, if he is going to impose his views on other people's bodies, he can just fuck right off.  I'll keep waiting for a real election process instead of voting for Ruling class A or Ruling class B.

[Ninja_Khorin]

Yeah. He's pro-life. And yes, if I had to choose out of the options. I'd probably go for Huntsman. Mainly because of this:

"Huntsman professes a firm belief in science, rejecting the notion that faith and evolution are mutually exclusive. In response to Rick Perry's creationist world view,[117] Huntsman warned that the Republicans should not become the "anti-science" party, and stated: "To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy.""

And compared to the others, except Ron Paul he's fairly liberal, although he's pro-life aswell.

[CrazyCracka420]

I'm pro-life too.  I think most people are pro-life. But I think my personal view shouldn't outweigh the person who's making the decision.  That's the difference between people who identify themselves as pro-life, as opposed to pro-choice.  I'd be labeled pro-choice, but I'm literally pro-life.


I don't see a lot of people who are pro-abortion...although there are a few out there who think that abortions are good because it's slowing the overgrowth of humans on the planet (aka the planet can't sustain the growth of humans at it's current rate). 

I guess we will continue to be divided and conquered.

[Angantyr]

His libertarianism aside (which is a whole discussion in itself) there's no doubt that Ron Paul is the only high-profile Western politician I know of who speaks directly and honestly about realpolitik/power politics to the voters as if they were actually a real cognitive part of the electoral process and whom so openly embraces the always unpopular but immensively important self-scutiny of the 'blessed homeland'. His perspective on issues such as US foreign policy, domestic corruption, human rights and adherence to international law, is a rare glimpse of sense and morality rarely, if ever, seen so unmarred by hypocracy in modern politics. And issues that with the current World order affects us all.

That his well-founded (and easily fact checked within any given law text, historical record etc.) arguments is an anomaly on the political scene and that a man such as he will never be president is, despite massive popular support which even Fox can't downplay entirely however much they try (see for example the 2011 Republican Presidential Debate), a testimony to the sad state of Western democracy.

[Nessaj]

Indeed Argantyr, to even think that he supports Racism/Slavery is the most blatant display of ignorance and a complete disregard for factual History. I mean would anyone for a moment think that he would be in favor of those things? Not even those who ARE IN favor of it would articulate it to the World in this manner, just stop and think for a second here, to believe in this notion is complete delusion and detachment from reality.

Yes, the guy who is speaking for freedom, who foresaw all the atrocities going on globally 10 years in advance, the man who openly speaks about everything, a doctor, is FOR slavery. Where do anyone get the audacity to even try spreading this false notion about Ron Paul when it is so obviously false, yet people fall for it so easily. If anything it would stick (and be true) to some of the other Republican candidates who people so highly praise, anyone who've been following the election just a tiny bit should have seen the whole 'Hunting Hut' scandal.

[Gomer]

I aint voting for him or the nig.... Never mind. Honestly he is a Democrat in Republican body. A real republican won't vote for him. Please don't. He is a bad  candidate please we don't need another Bush tainting are record.

[Kabookie]

Damned politicians! 

[Ylca]

I'm pro-life too.  I think most people are pro-life. But I think my personal view shouldn't outweigh the person who's making the decision.  That's the difference between people who identify themselves as pro-life, as opposed to pro-choice.  I'd be labeled pro-choice, but I'm literally pro-life.


I don't see a lot of people who are pro-abortion...although there are a few out there who think that abortions are good because it's slowing the overgrowth of humans on the planet (aka the planet can't sustain the growth of humans at it's current rate). 

I guess we will continue to be divided and conquered.

I'd say most people are pro-choice given the number of pro-lifers that are "pro-life" until they need, or immediately after their abortion.

[Gomer]

Vote John Stewart!