What Religion are you?

[Mtemtko]

A few questions I asked myself/thought about when I was a kid was why religions are so based on geography/culture. So I like asking these questions:



my answer to E was atheism. Of course, results may vary.

Long live the chadz!

[Christo]

Long live the chadz!

chadzian? 

[Draedan]

Didn't look at any posts,
Just putting in my 2 cents about poll.

Christian, Judaism, Islam, and Muslim should all be in the same poll. 
Otherwise make them SEPARATE.
You don't see Jews bombing anyone or forcing anything down anyone's throat.

Add a Nihilism Option.

[DrKronic]

I was raised by pure atheist's who taught me to love and respect and hate people for their individual qualities not their beliefs

While its nice to see the survey respondents have similar views I still see so much hatred towards religion in these posts, who cares no reason to show true "elitism " and say nonsensical statements like if someone believes in something they are autoretarded, just shows ignorance and bigotry

Also the violent spread of marxist communism, national socialism were marked by the massacre of religious people

To say atheism never caused war or genocide is denying Marx his legacy of genocides committed by tyrants the world over(in the name of Socialist Revolution ) that would have never happened had his philosophy never existed

[Alex_C]

You don't see Jews bombing anyone or forcing anything down anyone's throat.

*ahem*

*points at Israel.

[[ptx]]

Lies!
You are not pointing at Israel. At best, you are pointing at the horizon...

[MountedRhader]

*ahem*

*points at Israel.

Agreed. Anyone ever heard of Palestine?
People so shrouded in bliss and ignorance. Watch the news! (Not fox-news)

[Christo]

Agreed. Anyone ever heard of Palestine?
People so shrouded in bliss and ignorance. Watch the news! (Not fox-news)

This.

[DrKronic]

I am training a guy from jordan who says most of the population in jordan is actually ethnic Palestinian who lived in that region(modern day Jordan)before the western powers made Nationstates out of various peoples I.e. he believes a true palestine would have most of jordan and part of israel in it, basically Palestinian are kicked around by everyone in his view(arab and jewish alike), interesting stuff

[AdNecrias]

You guys should get to know the religion my old friend made in highschool. Let me translate... Cosmochickenocreationism. It's based on the belief that the cosmic chicken, which laid the cosmic egg which led to the big bang and thus all of us, is the true god. There was also egg version of it but it soon died off given it's only member caught a cold.

[BD_Guard_Bane]

Lol, I wish someone would.  We might all get a bit of peace, for a short while at least.   
It would be nice to have people not blow shit up and kill for the sake of a difference of religious opinion for a change.

The problem there is that metaphysical, ethical, and theological claims about the world are very vulnerable to abuse. A difference in religious opinion is very rarely the cause of people killing each other. The most that a difference in religious opinion alone has ever led to is a slightly heated argument. But of course it is never just about a philosophical or theological difference in metaphysical or ethical claims.

People kill each other because of psychological and sociological reasons, not because of religion. Blaming religious belief is just a very easy answer to a very complex problem.

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A few questions I asked myself/thought about when I was a kid was why religions are so based on geography/culture. So I like asking these questions:

a) Are you of the same religion as most of the other people in your area.
b) Are you of the same religion as your parents.
c) Are you of the same religion that you were raised with as a child.
d) Do you think you would have the same religion as you have right now if you were raised in another part of the world.
e) What is your logical conclusion of the above answers?

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my answer to E was atheism. Of course, results may vary.

Sure, atheism is the result if you don't already assume that:

1) The world is logical
2) There is a God
3) God has a plan for the world, and it runs according to that plan (which makes d impossible)
4) People follow different religions because of some aspect of the Divine Plan, which is beyond human understanding

or even (very simplistically)

1) The world is logical
2) People are born and die in cycles, due to ignorance of escape from the cycles
3) Ignorance of escape can only be overcome by learning of enlightenment
4) People follow different religions because of their ignorance

To get atheism you just have to pre-assume that:

1) The world is logical
2) There is no pre-set order as to where people are born
3) The existence of different (often theologically opposed) religions means that none of them can be correct
4) The existence of cultural trends in religious belief is better explained by a non-religious theory


Atheism is just as much a belief system as any given religion is. And its just as culturally influenced, too.






 

[Franklin]

People kill each other because of psychological and sociological reasons, not because of religion. Blaming religious belief is just a very easy answer to a very complex problem.

A somewhat circular argument as human psychology and society is heavily influenced by religion.  I doubt it is as complex as some people hope it is.

[chadz]

3) God has a plan for the world, and it runs according to that plan (which makes d impossible)
4) People follow different religions because of some aspect of the Divine Plan, which is beyond human understanding

Well of course this cannot be assumed. That ideas would have to come from somewhere. When you think about a subject, you cant just start in the middle. Tabula rasa!

If you just assume the above - or even take them into consideration - that's like writing a book about the best book in the world, which is actually the book you are currently writing on. Infinite Loop!

Atheism is just as much a belief system as any given religion is. And its just as culturally influenced, too.

That is also, by definition not true. "Not playing tennis" is not a sport, "being bald" is no haircolour and "not having sex" is not satisfying.

Religions are fine if they just stay where they belong - between sorting stamps and taking pictures of trains.

Edit: I feel I have the right to attack religions, I was forced to be scared from god when I was a child and then put into an totally elite catholic church school where people were molested left and right of me from priests, thank god I was lucky enough to skip the experience first hand

[Christo]

Edit: I feel I have the right to attack religions, I was forced to be scared from god when I was a child and then put into an totally elite catholic church school where people were molested left and right of me from priests, thank god I was lucky enough to skip the experience first hand

Now that's retarded, the side of the church I always disliked. Problem is with the Catholics that the rules are too strict imo, I mean come on, it's 2011, let the Priests marry legally. 

[Raskolnikov]

Also the violent spread of marxist communism, national socialism were marked by the massacre of religious people

Not just religious people, anybody suspected of dissent. So were these religious people killed because they were religious, or were they killed because they were dissenters?

To say atheism never caused war or genocide is denying Marx his legacy of genocides committed by tyrants the world over(in the name of Socialist Revolution ) that would have never happened had his philosophy never existed

(From dictionary.com)
Atheism:

1. the doctrine or belief that there is no god.
2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Firstly, I take issue with sense 1. Sense 2 is the true - and most literal - meaning of atheism. Regardless, there is nothing in either about genocide, and there is nothing there about Karl Marx. Don't conflate Stalinism (which is not even Marxism) with atheism. Atheism, unlike ALL religions has no creed. You do not have to do anything, there is no network of interdependent beliefs, there are no rites or rituals and there are no holy books, prophets, divine messengers, beings or devils or demons whose messages can be interpreted or misinterpreted. Atheism is just disbelief. How you get from a disbelief in deities to genocides - I do not know.

And all those deaths had nothing to do with Socialism, they were the result of tyrants wanting absolute authority over the people they ruled. But let's not digress - this isn't a topic about Socialism.