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Why don't you enjoy playing on EU 1 ?

Lots of ranged makes the game unplayable ...
Lots of cav charging from everywhere makes the game unplayable...
Lots of melee attacking from everywhere makes the game unplayable (Explain how please)
I think EU_1 is fine . I like how it is.
Main problem is ladders to roofs , the amount of ranged is fine.
I don't know about gameplay but with this upkeep , i can't play...

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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #120 on: December 02, 2011, 05:21:06 pm »
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NO. 2 melee who arent hungry hippos can easily dispose of 1 enemy: 2 hungry hippos can easily die to 1 enemy: I stated, decent players. A decent player will help his teammate, they will back the guy up untill he has nowhere to go, then they will attack with different swings: no way to block 2 directions, your dead. Im not interested in how noobs rush into each others way in a massive teamhitting orgy. Thats not a gank, its just wank.

You definitely play another game. Good melee players often dispatch 2-4 decent, non-greedy players without even a single teamhit happening. That's part of what keeps melee interesting and isn't even a rare occurence in mid-round.

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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #121 on: December 02, 2011, 05:56:43 pm »
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Poll result : "Lots of ranged makes the game unplayable ..."

Pls answer this question : Why don't play on this server : http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,20872.0.html ? I play on this server some times but i see only 2 or 3 player, why don't come? I know why : U don't know how to block, can't found easy targets (archers).

My suggestion enough understandable : Remove archery from game and give free respec. (Devs remove horse archery (because cRPG must like Stronghold) but don't give free respec...) Everyone egocentric why ? I want see in this game all class balanced like this : 2H = HA = Archery = Lance = Polearm = Throwing = Shield... But i dont see (K-D) 50-1 archer but i see cav or 2H...

Archers can't use heavy armors or ironflesh, but i don't see any archer say this : "archery ruining my game  :cry:" We are (archers) most easy targets for other archers but its not runing our game.

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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #122 on: December 02, 2011, 06:08:32 pm »
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The game is balanced as it stands. Archers camping places that are unreachable is the main problem in battle. Right now on EU1 one team has half their players, not only archers but also xbows and inf just sitting on roofs for most the round with no way to get up. It makes the game boring as fuck.

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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #123 on: December 02, 2011, 06:16:29 pm »
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Poll result : "Lots of ranged makes the game unplayable ..."

Pls answer this question : Why don't play on this server : http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,20872.0.html ? I play on this server some times but i see only 2 or 3 player, why don't come? I know why : U don't know how to block, can't found easy targets (archers).

My suggestion enough understandable : Remove archery from game and give free respec. (Devs remove horse archery (because cRPG must like Stronghold) but don't give free respec...) Everyone egocentric why ? I want see in this game all class balanced like this : 2H = HA = Archery = Lance = Polearm = Throwing = Shield... But i dont see (K-D) 50-1 archer but i see cav or 2H...

Archers can't use heavy armors or ironflesh, but i don't see any archer say this : "archery ruining my game  :cry:" We are (archers) most easy targets for other archers but its not runing our game.

Pls play on cRPG_Melee, happy games. Thanks for read.

English very very bad ? Can't help to say that as none of your points make sense or are remotely related to the game. No archer cries about melee or other archers simply because there aren't any reasons to from an archer point of view. The first have to pass through a death field and the second will only aim at you when your whole inf meatshield died.

The reason many people don't go on pure melee servers is because there most players are extremely good duelers and have pure melee builds. Any build that trades a little melee power for a shield or to use a horse are and will always be sub-par there.

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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #124 on: December 02, 2011, 06:18:21 pm »
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If "remove ladders from battle" (this is a nerf) solve this problem, its ok, remove this ?! But stop nerfing, "remove ladders from battle" must be last nerf... Archery not fine now.

English very very bad ?

Yes, very very bad.
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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #125 on: December 02, 2011, 06:27:32 pm »
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@Leshma: so it´s even worst than i thought...

Anyway, i don´t think that thing will change, archer syndicate lobby is.strong! Fact is that they don´t understand that inf don´t want a game with no ranged, inf just want to enjoy the game as archer do...

Tbh i was archer when i started to play, then i learn how to block and started to enjoy melee fight, now i find melee more fun and rewarding.


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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #126 on: December 02, 2011, 06:35:48 pm »
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The reason many people don't go on pure melee servers is because there most players are extremely good duelers and have pure melee builds. Any build that trades a little melee power for a shield or to use a horse are and will always be sub-par there.
Seems like that archers can even catch ya up on the melee only servers and ruin your game. Truly, they are OP, we should get rid of'em!

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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #127 on: December 02, 2011, 06:40:02 pm »
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You guys are really fighting over nothing here. Removing ladders from Battle Servers was suggested ages ago, in every possible way there is, from nice, decent suggestion threads to blatant rages & insults yet nothing, ABSOLUTELY nothing was ever done about it. How can we even make any other suggestion about anything while such an easy, basic, trivial & absolutely necessary thing can't even get a proper reply from any developer, let alone a proper course of action ? How hard can it be ? Even a complete fool would have to agree on this one, what we call "battles" is far, far away from "battle", you could use dozens of terms for it but not this one. How & why they refuse to understand the level of enhancement with this small, easy but a very significant "move" is really shocking. Just remove the ladders from all battle servers, don't give us a 30-slot server without it and say " There you go, assholes - enjoy yourselves." It's the same with melee only servers. None wants to play there, its not fun and no one ever asked for it but all these archers just tell you to go there instead "asking for further archery nerfs", which is not what all these arguments are about, at all. None wants to nerf archers to hell or "destroy" that class completely, people just want to play BATTLES, instead of acting as practicing targets to a bunch of unreachable "national heroes", that's all.  :wink:

I mean seriously: back in the old days at least some teamwork could've helped you to do something, now even that doesn't help anymore. Team with more archers on roofs wins and there's nothing you can do about it. Awesome.
Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.
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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #128 on: December 02, 2011, 06:47:20 pm »
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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #129 on: December 02, 2011, 06:50:46 pm »
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At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square.
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #130 on: December 02, 2011, 06:53:13 pm »
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lalala...

You guys aint helpin' with your bunch of archer alts either. I understand what have you tried to achieve over there with all that highlighting and exaggerating of the archers amount etc. but with your performances as an archers it went kind'a contraproductive.
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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #131 on: December 02, 2011, 07:10:41 pm »
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So who here does really think nerfing archers more is a solution?
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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #132 on: December 02, 2011, 07:12:47 pm »
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You guys aint helpin' with your bunch of archer alts either.

As the good old Razor Ramon would say: "You picked the wrong guy, Chico".
Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.
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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #133 on: December 02, 2011, 07:19:12 pm »
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As the good old Razor Ramon would say: "You picked the wrong guy, Chico".
Well maybe i did, maybe Montgomery_Burns aint your alt, then i apologize to you. You cant blame me, he seems very similar to your char. :wink:
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Re: [POLL] About EU_1 Battle.Why its no fun anymore ? Or is it fun ?
« Reply #134 on: December 02, 2011, 07:26:49 pm »
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Well maybe i did, maybe Montgomery_Burns aint your alt, then i apologize to you. You cant blame me, he seems very similar to your char.

Actually it was Mr_Burns, not Montgomery. He was a crossbowman and i played him for like 10-20 hours maybe, back when i was playing at all, ofc. He is deleted for like 3 months now, together with all of the other chars i had, including a generation 10 level 33 main. :wink:

As for my lads: several of them just tried to play archers the best they could but every single one of them quit it very soon because its simply not in our nature to play such a my old friendgy class. It's not that we are homophobic, i assure you, but that kind of bundle of sticksry is not our sport, we simply can't enjoy it. Bandits were mostly 2h/polearm/cavalry. We had little to no archers, crossbowman, throwers & even shielders and I'm proud to say we were hard core, no matter what.   :wink:
Do you honestly think you have any sort of moral authority, Reyiz? Go genocide some more armenians and deny it ever happened, please, and stay in the middle east.
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