Armor heirlooms

[Gurnisson]

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So you're the one with the good idea. I'm all behind that idea.

[Torp]

The thing with armor looms is that it commits you to a single armor and outfit if you want full effectiveness, and that gives veteran players a 'look' people recognize and it increases the RPG factor of the game, which i think is a good thing.
If you nerfed armor looms noone would give a shit and we'd lose that aspect.

[Tzar]

Archers and fairy´s with low ps will vote yes everyone else will vote no...

Pointsless thread...

That said armor looms where nerfed with the new soak values that Paul introduced way back that almost removed any sort of glancing blows...

All a fully set of loomed armor does now is make you survive 1 more hit

Offcourse if your a str whore you might be able to take 2 more hits but thats because of the IF and STR

Loomed helmets and boots doesn't rly do anything since you receive such a huge dmg boost when striking people in the head or leg that +7 armor rly doenst do much hence why people tend to loom it for last..


All i see here is another nerf nerf nerf thread

I think the reason the devs haven't or will nerf armor looms is because of what paul did with the new soak values thus making a nerf on armor looms pointless..

The biggest advantage used to be that people would glance of you noted that u had a good amount of armor but thats not the case anymore unless your Robocop aka georges but hes setup is also insane an not common due to a huge upkeep 

[B3RS3RK]

Body armor stay with actual heirllooms values and gloves heirlooms will be cancelled.

Hell no!

Leave mah gloves as they are, I dare you!

Cancel Body armor Heirlooms if you want, or nerf them, but dont touch mo Gloves BIOTCH!

[B3RS3RK]

From this kato Guy I guess.

[B3RS3RK]

what kato guy lol

Last post on the site before this one here.

or his profile:



http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php?action=profile;u=513

[Kato]

bla bla...

more blocking, less spamming and you will be ok

[B3RS3RK]

Most people who say Armor heirlooms arent ok dont have any.I bet it.


Or, if you like, nerf the armor heirlooms on the Heavy and the heavy-medium armors, but leave light ones and especially GAUNTLETS!

[Tzar]

more blocking, less spamming and you will be ok

If you had said my writing wasn't good enough, fair enough, that's an opinion. But to say it's too complex for you to actually write something usefull back at it instead of random gibberish trying to insult me instead doesn't make for a good discussion. why dont you try again and say what you think about the subject which is about armor looms and not blocking and spamming.

[Kato]

If you had said my writing wasn't good enough, fair enough, that's an opinion. But to say it's too complex for you to actually write something usefull back at it instead of random gibberish trying to insult me instead doesn't make for a good discussion. why dont you try again and say what you think about the subject which is about armor looms and not blocking and spamming.

Already wrote my suggestion.

Basically I like to see this game skillbase as much as possible, and free hits after somebody glance on you not fit there (ofc it need some skill to make people glance, but still its random) and if somebody hit you 4+ times you deserve a die because you suck.
Nothing personal, i have different view on this, thats all.

[Tzar]

Already wrote my suggestion.

Basically I like to see this game skillbase as much as possible, and free hits after somebody glance on you not fit there (ofc it need some skill to make people glance, but still its random) and if somebody hit you 4+ times you deserve a die because you suck.
Nothing personal, i have different view on this, thats all.

Thats because of iron flesh along with STR that makes people survive 4 hits.

My current setup is 74 body armor with that i get to take on regular basic about 2 to 3 hits if im lucky since i dont have any iron flesh and only 16 str NOTE: im talking about hits on the body not head or legs.

That 3rd hit is because of my heir loomed armor which is the result of retiring 6 times plus i really only wear that suit because of the look/style

On my old setup i had about 68 body armor and 21 str and 6 IF with that i could take 3-4 hits but that´s because of the increased HP that comes along with ironflesh and str. not armor heirlooms.

Paul have all ready fixed what was broken and that was the chance of glance being off the roof back before he changed the soak values.

If you really think that 14 body armor gloves and armor makes such a huge difference your wrong we are talking about 1 more hit.

Plz explain to me what would be the point of retiring 6 times to brag about having +8 body armor in total and not surviving that 1 extra hit?

In the end why nerf something which aren't broken  :

Point of looming your armor n gloves are for that 1 extra hit you can take unless faced against a STR whore or bodkin arrows.

It used to be OP back when glancing blows was common now....... i dunno off course surviving 1 extra hit means something but its not something i would call a nerf for.

[Tears of Destiny]

Yeah, just as i got warned before my tears got nerfed to oblivion, naaaah, not going to happen 

Posts like this make me curse my flag system... Keep thinking people are memtioning me, but nope... Forever alone 
On topic: armour should be nerfed to a +4 and gloves to a +3 or 4. This would fix a lot in my opinion. At the very least a max of +5 from each not +7.

[Vibe]

Most people who say Armor heirlooms arent ok dont have any.I bet it.


Or, if you like, nerf the armor heirlooms on the Heavy and the heavy-medium armors, but leave light ones and especially GAUNTLETS!

Uh I have fully loomed body and gloves and I have no problem admitting armor looms are ridiculous at the moment.
As for the rest, well, you're all biased/selfish aka don't want your shit to get nerfed.

[Leshma]

When Final Boss finish that project of his and it finally gets implemented stat bonuses should be removed from loomed gear.

Items in this game are pretty balanced, but looming totally fucks up that balance.

+3 on pierce weapon is like +7 on cut
+14 on body armour is too much
+6 pierce on ranged weapons is just silly

[Gorath]

Uh I have fully loomed body and gloves and I have no problem admitting armor looms are ridiculous at the moment.
As for the rest, well, you're all biased/selfish aka don't want your shit to get nerfed.

I have x3 heirloomed weapons, x3 heirloomed armor, x3 heirloomed gloves, etc

I have been saying since it was introduced that heirlooms are just a stupid idea in general that leads to imbalance issues and feelings of inequality and butthurtedness.  And what have we had since they've been introduced?  Yeah.