Btw the dumb one sells now 3 MW items, i have only 2, how he is a newplayer with 3 MW?
We have a player Wintersturm(germany), now Winter_Market_Peasent, this it the player in question, he has atm a 1 times loomed weapon as far as i know.
A completly different player is Winterfell(belgium) who sells atm Masterwork Items.
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Moreover, Kinngrim should, as a betatester, be able to comment objectively, not biased. He clearly has shown he only has interest for his clan, his credibility as a tester is damaged by this fact. What's to stop him from being biased towards future implementations?
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In fact, I think Kinngrim is the one going over the line with his biased poll and way of acting when it's a clanmate. I didn't see him protecting others that got 'shafted'.
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Ask Fallen_Thorben, Herkutati_of_Acre, Prpavi(without clan) and others were i invested time not for my own clan members so that those get items back or give them back to those who made mistakes when they put them up.
On the "objectively", i am human, and one of my ideals is objectivity, but still an ideal where i can strive for but most likely will never achieve. Yes Wintersturm is my friend and clan member and yes the poll was biased and should have included other options, at that time i put it up i was angree over an admin who to my knowledge took several times advantage of other players, basicly i only knew about Poophammer through others talking about him as someone who takes advantage of players "within the marketplace".
My credebility as tester, has to do with test stuff for the devs, when i am in irc and i am told to test something, i do so, not much more to that. I am not an admin and my chances to become an admin may have been crippled by this, if other admins and devs would think that me taking one of their own on and holding him and thereby them too to higher standards would be not in their best interests.
Brief Synopsis:
Poophammer bought an item off of the market place for a hell of a good deal, then went to sleep. A thread was made of it, and a PM sent to him. It spiraled out of control and he lost admin, all before he woke up.
My thoughts:
Even if he decided to do the right think he had no time before his admin was removed. Instead he was punished for something that he had no control over. If the community, and specifically The Wolves, had waited a bit to contact him via PM rather than crucifying him in a thread then he might still have admin.
as stated before the deal was roughly one month back, but myself got to know about it just before i made first post.
So he had a lot of time and in this time he made other similar deals and i spoke with Franky about it again, Franky at no time said it was just fine Poophamer you don't need to worry about it. Franky asked him about the deal and Poophammer told Franky the Nodachi was already sold without offering compensation.
It was the community, and specifically the EU community (who don't even frequent the NA servers enough to worry about his admin) that got it removed. Instead of treating him like a responsible adult and giving him the time to respond they decided to demand he be removed. It was nothing but a lynching and everyone involved should be ashamed. Poophammer was a good (if lenient) admin and did right by the NA community.
Myself was often on NA servers when i started playing and lately i am more often on NA servers again, through strategus, i dont play at all anymore that much crpg though. The EU community didnt remove his admin, Shik did and for the reasons why Shik decided that way you need to speak to Shik.
I think that Poophammer's admin should be restored; The Wolves, and specifically Kinngrimm should apologize to Poophammer; and in a gesture of goodwill Poophammer should return the item for a refund of his money.
If Poophammer retrieves a suitable portion of that item, i think it would be seen kindly by most of us, but i will not apologize for something i still believe i was acting correctly.
That topic popping out a month after the incident sure is suspicious. Sounds like personal vendetta again, just like Nuffen's case.
nope, no vendeta just got to know about it a lot later.
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My bad, I did not expect something about a month ago to come up like that when I was out for the day (was not asleep)
my bad, that i did hear about that only one month afterwards and that it did get me upset enough to bring it to everyonce attention.
Franky messaged me on steam saying hey, you bought his nodachi for 100k. Yeah he was dumb and should have asked us first, and he seemed happy he sold it for 100k fast, but he did not know it was underpriced.
That is when I told him I had already sold it, and he told me no worries, it was his mistake
Now if he had asked me to do something to repay him, I would have. I have been friends with Franky for a while. I respect him, and if he wanted me to do something like that for a friend then god damn it, I would have.
Well Franky for once has no idear that you two are that close. If he knew you were friends he would perhaps have expected you to either give the item back immediatly or a compensation. I myself would expect admins to give warnings about heavily underprized items so that anyone would be able to correct that, even tell them for how much they could actually sell those items. After all it could have been either a honest mistake or just a player who didn't know, who made his first attempt in the market.
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If Franky would have not given me some false sense of "yeah, its okay it was his mistake no hard feelings", then yeah I would have done right.
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I don't think he actually gave you that impression, if so there must have been a large communicational gab on steam between you too(which can happen because of the language barrier).
At the time this came as topic in our ts(when i made my post about it) Franky was still upset about it, not ok at all with it.
Myself did get upset but not only because of the mindbuggling low prize you got for a 3x Nodachi, but that an admin would just do that.
I still would appreciate if you would came to the conclusion for yourself that in all fairness you would pay something to Wintersturm(now Winter_Market_Peasent), not because you want your admin back but just to give another player the time back he invested to get a 3x item which most of us are proud of having those.
