Strategus update: weight, trading, spotting

[dodnet]

yeah i would rather have some camels.
and yes i'm totally unbiased on this 

Amashke produces Camel Milk

[Erasmas]

And Jelbegi produces Trained equus africanus asinuses  (Trained D O N K E Y S - for those of you who did not get that earlier)

[Sojetsu]

You are always faster with horses, I think you misread that part. You can still get 180%.

w8

Horse caravan with crates faster then equiped inf without crates?

180% speed with more horses than troops, and equipment worn directly,
130% speed with slow horses,
100%-90% with equipment worn directly (depends on the weight of the equip you wear),
85% if you have more horses than crates,
75% to 40% if you have troops carrying crates.

[Blondin]

Thanks for your answer, effectively i misread, but it's still confusing...

So with this new input that will be :
50 horses - 50 crates : 180% (or 130%)
51 horses - 50 crates : 85%
So we need a full load to have no penalty, but i don't understand why more horses than crates will slow you down? (In terms of gameplay not of realism ofc)

Anyway if i can go 180% speed it's all good!

Btw, thx for the hard work you did to make this version of strat more enjoyable for everybody, some of us are disapointed because it takes time to put everything in place, but once wealth will be create by trade and craft, once clan will have take all fief, i'm sur that the game will be more enjoyable that old strat version.
Old strat was more a battle generator than a strategic wargame, now there is many more factor, it might need some tweak and new feature but i can see that final goal is way better, one more time you made great job.

About clan, i think ppl should low their claims, you can have 40 members but if only 10 are active for micro management, then you should have claims for 10 not 40, or you need a good organization (like Drz)

[Bjarky]

Amashke produces Camel Milk

yeah i know ^^
just wish i had some camels alike horses who can carry goods etc. 

[arowaine]

good work

[Okkam]

Can someone explain me what «Seller - Partial trade» flag do?

Bah.. I don't like your scalpers taxes chadz. How 1% of 5000 can be 500gold?
Sorry, thought it was price for all items, not for one.

But anyway I like how it's going.

[Overdriven]

So we need a full load to have no penalty, but i don't understand why more horses than crates will slow you down? (In terms of gameplay not of realism ofc)

Actually yeah that makes 0 sense from both points of view. Why does having more horses than crates slow you?

[crazybob]

So what speed does horses need to be considered fast horses? 36? 40?

180% speed with more horses than troops, and equipment worn directly,
130% speed with slow horses,
100%-90% with equipment worn directly (depends on the weight of the equip you wear),
85% if you have more horses than crates,
75% to 40% if you have troops carrying crates.

So if you have more horses than troops, multiply speed with 1.8
If you have more horses than crates, multiply speed with 0.85 (Doesnt make any sense btw)
That would mean if you have 11 Horses, 10 troops, 10 goods, speed is *1.8*0.85?
Do i understand these % correctly? Im guessing not...some explanation would be nice.

[mandible/splinteryourjaw]

I think I've discovered my problem with speed.  It seems that while my horses are carrying my goods, my troops are carrying my horses.

[RandomDude]

Well if i read it correctly the only way to get 180% speed is to have no crates at all, but with more fast horses than men (so 1 more fast horse than you have troops)

With no crates and 1 more slow horse than men you can get 130%

With equal or less horses than men you can get 100-90% (no crates)

If you have crates but at least 1 more horses than crates then u can get up to 85% (presumably fast horses give more speed still?)

If you dont have enough horses to carry crates and your troops have to carry them then 75% is your max, can go as low as 40%

Basically carrying crates  by any method means you move 85% speed max?

[dodnet]

It doesn't make sense why you need one more horse than troops. Shouldn't it be enough to have same amount of troops and horses (if you don't have any goods)?

[Bjarky]

Well if i read it correctly the only way to get 180% speed is to have no crates at all, but with more fast horses than men (so 1 more fast horse than you have troops)

With no crates and 1 more slow horse than men you can get 130%

With equal or less horses than men you can get 100-90% (no crates)

If you have crates but at least 1 more horses than crates then u can get up to 85% (presumably fast horses give more speed still?)

If you dont have enough horses to carry crates and your troops have to carry them then 75% is your max, can go as low as 40%

Basically carrying crates  by any method means you move 85% speed max?

yes that is the case.

[Aelfwine]

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Faraway goods bonus was manipulated so it's a) higher and b) it goes more like this:

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The idea is that, once you have reached around 70%, the increase is getting lower again, so you don't necessarily have to move to the very last village in the corner.

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just to get a clear idea, what values are those on the two axes? i guess distance and price bonus %, but which is which? and is distance in km?

[Turboflex]

Which are fast horses and which are slow?