Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.

[cmp]

If you want to give something to "compensate", then why not just plain old stats?

+5 speed +5 damage?

[Zerran]

One could suggest to make it so that polestagger only is allowed to happen when the receiving player is doing an attack animation in the moment of the hit. So it won't work against a defending or already staggered agent.

This would be nice. It would also help eliminate spammers! As it stands polestagger can be extremely annoying since it can really screw you over even while playing defensively. With a system like this, the only time it would screw someone over is if they're being overly aggressive or just doing something stupid.

[Christo]

+5 speed +5 damage?

Massive rage incoming then.

I remember when Elegant Poleaxe was first introduced, it had 97 speed, later 95.

 

[Tzar]

+2 speed +3 damage?

Fixed

[Kafein]

I suggest polestagger to be entirely removed from all polearms with more attack directions than 1. It's really not needed on weapons that are equivalent if not better than 2h on many aspects without it.

However, some of the longest (read, less efficient as non-support weapons) 2-directional polearms should keep it, like the lances, long awlpike, bamboo spear, swiss halberd and english bill...
And certainly the pike and long spear should keep it. Those are already underused weapons. Removing the stagger would defeat their support purpose.

[Teeth]

I suggest polestagger to be entirely removed from all polearms with more attack directions than 1. It's really not needed on weapons that are equivalent if not better than 2h on many aspects without it.

However, some of the longest (read, less efficient as non-support weapons) 2-directional polearms should keep it, like the lances, long awlpike, bamboo spear, swiss halberd and english bill...
And certainly the pike and long spear should keep it. Those are already underused weapons. Removing the stagger would defeat their support purpose.

Ashwood pike? 

[Kafein]

Ashwood pike? 

What ? No of course not. It's as spammy as the awlpike. Those are basically duel weapons, and shouldn't get a polestagger.

[Gisbert_of_Thuringia]

So anything going to be done about this?

I don't know the reason for this polestun, actually it can't be neither about realism nor about balance.

No other weapon can stun and push you back so much as a polearm can do. People backpaddling and always pushing you 1-2 steps back when they hit you....

Would be cool if these things finally get changed instead of making weird bow textures or nerfs that are way too strong

[Xant]

It is about balance. Polearms needs something to compensate for the loss of polestun, if it happens.

[cmp]

Would be cool if these things finally get changed instead of making weird bow textures

I agree. It would also be nice to remove polestagger instead of ordering pizza or playing Beethoven's 9th symphony.

[Penitent]

Polestun is fine.  "Oh noes!  I have to block twice in a row once in a while!"  Guys, its really not that bad.  2h already out-range and out-speed most poles, and this gives them something interesting and dynamic on the battlefield.  Getting rid of the stun and tweaking stats to compensate would make things much more stale and two dimensional.

signed,
-not a pole user

[BlackMilk]

polestagger is fine.  "Oh noes!  I have to block twice in a row once in a while!"  Guys, its really not that bad.  2h already out-range and out-speed most poles, and this gives them something interesting and dynamic on the battlefield.  Getting rid of the stun and tweaking stats to compensate would make things much more stale and two dimensional.

signed,
-not a pole user

thing with polestagger is that you can't do shit once you're staggered.

[Xol!]

polestagger is fine.  "Oh noes!  I have to block twice in a row once in a while!"  Guys, its really not that bad.  2h already out-range and out-speed most poles, and this gives them something interesting and dynamic on the battlefield.  Getting rid of the stun and tweaking stats to compensate would make things much more stale and two dimensional.

signed,
-not a pole user

That's not how it works.

[Tzar]

Herpa derpa not nerfing my own class derp derp...

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[Dezilagel]

Just remove it, give a small speedbonus to poles and be done with it already!