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Should the polearm stun be removed from cRPG ?

yes
54 (49.5%)
yes, but it should stay for some specific polearms
35 (32.1%)
no
20 (18.3%)

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Voting closed: November 04, 2011, 02:31:06 am

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #240 on: November 30, 2011, 01:35:23 pm »
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If you're at a facehug distance, the right attack comes "before" the model. It's a hiltslash, but because of the way polearms are held it looks weird. It's not faster than 2h hiltslash, just looks a bit more dumb.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #241 on: November 30, 2011, 04:45:54 pm »
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People who play other classes are either:

- FotM scum
- roleplaying a theme (like Ujin with that silly str shielder hybrid of his)
- don't know to play so they choose archery/xbow because it's the only class they are familiar with (Quake, UT, CS, CoD, BF, TF...)

When 2H was truly stronger than polearms there was like 80% 2H players. Make greatswords stupid easy and effective as pike is atm and you'll see everyone and their dogs running around with 2Hs on their backs. That's probably the reason why they don't wan't to buff 2H swords.

Bullshiet. Calling every non2h FoTM scum is retarded. I was a polearmer one year ago, even during the era when German GS oneshot killed me in milanese plate. I still used my pole-arms when onehanders raped everything virtually.

(Yes, I had Milanese once, but after a week I sold it back because I like my traditional look better. Much more original and cool.)

Polearms for life here, I didn't choose the path because it's overpowered. I just don't like swords in general, and this was the nice alternative. Axes baby, Axes. etc.

About stun/stagger/whatever you name it: Well, is it possible to remove/change? If yes, then I'd like to try my weapons out without it for a week or so. I never really relied, or abused the feature, (other than longspear/bamboo melee combat) so I could easily say byebye to stagger.

After the test period, it would be easy to see if pole-arms can be useful without the stun, or need some kind of a compensation to balance it out. I think we wouldn't even need that.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #242 on: November 30, 2011, 07:42:34 pm »
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What the hell is FoTM scum anyway.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #243 on: November 30, 2011, 07:45:53 pm »
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What the hell does FoTM mean anyway?

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #244 on: November 30, 2011, 07:47:47 pm »
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What the hell does FoTM mean anyway?

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It's a common MMO word, 'Flavour of the month.'
Only shortened.

We should have our own word, 'Flavour of the patch' here, though.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #245 on: November 30, 2011, 07:49:41 pm »
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What the hell does FoTM mean anyway?

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #246 on: November 30, 2011, 07:58:16 pm »
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Your point?
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #247 on: November 30, 2011, 08:03:20 pm »
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I honestly like the idea of polearm stun.

And I will tell you why:

Because its a big 2handed axe / face smashing type weapon that if it really did hit you, you wouldn't be stunned for a split second anyways.

Here is the problem:

Aside from the reduction in length polearms have, there really isn't a real disadvantage to taking them as weapons.
You get damage, range, anti cav, and speed also in some circumstances.

I would much rather see polearms keep the stun (aside from some weapons) but take an overall speed decrease.

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #248 on: November 30, 2011, 08:35:56 pm »
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Once you're decent at 2H you don't want to play anything else, even if you try something else you'll get bored after a short period of time and respec back to 2H.

No, just no.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #249 on: November 30, 2011, 10:03:48 pm »
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I really don't get it why people cry so much about twohanders. Must be because they suck at 2H themselves. Once you're decent at 2H you don't want to play anything else, even if you try something else you'll get bored after a short period of time and respec back to 2H.
I would like to think I'm a pretty good 2h. I still change my weapon class every gen (1h two gens ago, 2h last gen, polearm this gen, 1h next gen, etc). I'm sure there are plenty of other people who do the same.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #250 on: November 30, 2011, 10:10:16 pm »
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My theory about rage:

When a 2h swordsman kills you hate him really hard, but deep inside you, you hate him cause he's better than you.

When you get killed by anything else you rage because you know that the guy who killed you is probably worse player than you.

Polearms would go hand in hand with 2H if not for the silly polestagger (just because Xant requested to be named properly).

I think I just died a little inside....what a poor poor opinion, although it does sum up my own suspicions about the arrogance of many two handed players.

It's a shame because I dont dislike you Leshma.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #251 on: December 01, 2011, 01:43:20 pm »
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I think I just died a little inside....what a poor poor opinion, although it does sum up my own suspicions about the arrogance of many two handed players.

It's a shame because I dont dislike you Leshma.

Come on man, don't feel bad cause of lil ol me. I don't even play the mod anymore :P

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #252 on: December 01, 2011, 01:56:52 pm »
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #253 on: December 01, 2011, 02:01:49 pm »
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Only if you promise you'll give them back to me when I decide to come back :D

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I really think of you as of decent young man, I hope you won't fail my trust.

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #254 on: December 01, 2011, 02:16:04 pm »
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