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Should the polearm stun be removed from cRPG ?

yes
54 (49.5%)
yes, but it should stay for some specific polearms
35 (32.1%)
no
20 (18.3%)

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Voting closed: November 04, 2011, 02:31:06 am

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Offline Memento_Mori

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #270 on: December 11, 2011, 03:46:33 pm »
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Also, let's get rid of 2 handers stunning people if they block. Nothing worse than being unable to block after successfully blocking a light saber 2 hander that is faster and does more damage than the polearms that only stun you if you miss your block.


Heavy weapons, not just 2 handers can stun a lighter weapon stopping you from ATTACKING but you will still be able to BLOCK.

Dueling with a wakizashi I deal with weapon stun on nearly every held hit of any weapon and I can tell you it does not impede your blocking ability only your attacking.

Gah, even heavy 1h swords can weapon stun. x_x
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 03:54:39 pm by Memento_Mori »

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #271 on: December 11, 2011, 07:21:10 pm »
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Heavy weapons, not just 2 handers can stun a lighter weapon stopping you from ATTACKING but you will still be able to BLOCK.

Dueling with a wakizashi I deal with weapon stun on nearly every held hit of any weapon and I can tell you it does not impede your blocking ability only your attacking.

Gah, even heavy 1h swords can weapon stun. x_x

how is that balanced?

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #272 on: December 11, 2011, 07:36:59 pm »
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only happens on held attacks, just something that makes sense and adds a bit of complexity to the combat system
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #273 on: December 12, 2011, 12:07:53 am »
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only happens on held attacks, just something that makes sense and adds a bit of complexity to the combat system
Oh I know. But that it's a stun for the 1h shielder on both the attack on shield AND the attack on the 1h is a bit silly. The attack on the shield should give a longer recovery for the guy attacking the shield (getting stuck) and not the shielder.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #274 on: December 12, 2011, 12:25:46 am »
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Pretty sure that the shield weight is used to determine whether or not you get stunned. If so, I think it's fine - shields weigh a fuckton.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #275 on: December 18, 2011, 08:54:36 pm »
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LOLstun is the silliest of things. It's always fun chasing a back peddling AGI polearm getting stunned and pushed backwards. It's no wonder so many people choose to be spamming agility builds that don't require learning how to block an opponent.

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #276 on: December 20, 2011, 10:01:52 am »
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LOLstun is the silliest of things. It's always fun chasing a back peddling AGI polearm getting stunned and pushed backwards. It's no wonder so many people choose to be spamming agility builds that don't require learning how to block an opponent.
I would bet removing the pole stun a stupid fuck like you would still get killed by a scythe... but remove it anyway and lets find out.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #277 on: December 20, 2011, 10:57:50 am »
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LOLstun is the silliest of things. It's always fun chasing a back peddling AGI polearm getting stunned and pushed backwards. It's no wonder so many people choose to be spamming agility builds that don't require learning how to block an opponent.

Those people never get very far on NA servers... Unless you are a siege scrub in that case 50% of the siege players don't block ever so it's fine... but then everyone on NA knows AGI builds never do well in siege...
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #278 on: December 20, 2011, 05:42:11 pm »
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LOLstun is the silliest of things. It's always fun chasing a back peddling AGI polearm getting stunned and pushed backwards. It's no wonder so many people choose to be spamming agility builds that don't require learning how to block an opponent.

???

How does this happen? I have 7 agi, and wear under 7.7 weight and can't out-back peddle people. I only run slightly faster than most people wearing med+ armor.

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #279 on: December 20, 2011, 06:01:07 pm »
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???

How does this happen? I have 7 agi, and wear under 7.7 weight and can't out-back peddle people. I only run slightly faster than most people wearing med+ armor.
Because those people probably have 18 agi and 6 athl or more? That's pretty normal. Or did you mean that you have 7 ATHLETICS and not agility?
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #280 on: December 21, 2011, 02:40:54 pm »
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Weapons like the pike should keep there polestun what with it loosing it overhead attack and being made an unbalanced weapon too I think it would be quite unfair for it to then loose it's polestun as well due to all other pole weapons being re-balanced.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2011, 05:01:43 pm by Banzai!!! »

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #281 on: December 21, 2011, 06:08:10 pm »
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Weapons like the pike should keep there polestun what with it loosing it overhead attack and being made an unbalanced weapon too I think it would be quite unfair for it to then loose it's polestun as well due to all other pole weapons being re-balanced.
The point is polestun /polestagger can be a one hit I win attack as the opponent never gets a chance to block after the first hit. Not sure why anyone thinks that should actually stay, all the reasoning for it is simply excuses to justify it's existence. Most people want it removed as far as I can tell. It's fucking cheesy with 'little' polearms and deadly with 2 hit polearms.
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #282 on: December 22, 2011, 02:54:02 am »
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My favorite weapon style is polearm, but I have to say that polestagger is cheap as hell. Not because it is totally unfair or unrealistic, but because it is limited to polearms when it should be available to any weapon with a certain, high amount of weight. Polestagger on the smaller polearms is ridiculous, and although it makes sense for particularly large weapons, like bardiches and poleaxes (or even large 2hders), the speed at which these weapons can be swung and swung again makes it cheap.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2011, 02:55:08 am by ArchonAlarion »

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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #283 on: December 23, 2011, 11:55:47 pm »
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POLESTAGGER POLESTAGGER REMOVE REMOVE BUUH!!!!!!!!
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Re: Remove the polearm stun in the next patch please.
« Reply #284 on: December 29, 2011, 09:28:27 am »
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We should all be happy there isnt more players that can make proper use of their polearms.

But if u are in doubt that polestun is op....go watch polepoop or duel nubert.

Polepoop is really skilled and whenever he can, he will double hit you....taking 75% hp with one  overhead and right swing (bad armor calc.)

Like Saint said (he is a good manual blocker btw)....its silly that u die (nearly die) after u missed one block.