'Suspicious IP behaviour' banwave.

[dynamike]

CHAOS hacks, cheats and crutches.

Collectively.

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[Keshian]

CHAOS hacks, cheats and crutches.

Collectively.

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Farmer_Nate was the whistleblower on you guys.  Could have gone on forever without being caught.

[Mannhammer]

Did anyone who is enraged about the Devs finally enforcing the rules ever read this?
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,14919.0.html
You were given a month to clean up your act but didn't, and now your reaping the whirlwind.

Cry Moar 

Also, thanks Segd for giving cheating tutorials in the rules enforcement tread. That takes some balls.
I guess the DRZ cheaters are just more adept at their craft then their GO comrades.
Lets see if the devs do anything about it.

[dynamike]

Farmer_Nate was the whistleblower on you guys.  Could have gone on forever without being caught.

We all thank him for showing us our wrong doings and leading us back on the path to righteousness! Without him we would all still be the scumbags we were back then.

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[Ujin]

Grey Order - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIeqRSPgMHw&feature=related .

[Overdriven]

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Okay, let me put it in this way:

GO is a big faction. Many guys involved. Anyone who run such big operation is aware that it very hard to control. Do we have cheaters? We do. Do we have retards? We do. Do we have trolls? We do. Do we have fucked up freaks? We do. Do we try to deal with them internally? Hell, yes we do. Is that easy? No, it is not. Does it work? Sometimes...  Is your clan any better than this? If yes – good for you, I do have my doubts about it though.

Multiaccounting, multiboxing, common theft and stupidity in general is... well, stupid. Not fair. However, there is a difference between intentional infringement of rules and infringement of their "spirit" - the latter is called "an exploit" and is dubious.  Multiaccounting is a hot topic now, so a word about it: it was a perfect tool to control the situation and was used by many, not only GO members. Does anyone wish to play on dozens of accounts? Hell no, we all (ok, most of us) have RL. This issue should be resolved by technical inability to use many accounts or organized way of doing so; otherwise you will never know if you are the only one that is not exploiting the system. Eventually the warning was issued and duly received; we ceased to do it some time ago. Better for us, in fact, it brings more organization within organization, and that works well. Mind you, however, that the issue itself still exists.

chadz got pissed off and spilled the news on who is to blame - fine, it is his prerogative to warn people off doing stuff that is or may be detrimental to the game as a whole, and we do take it as such. He did it on the totally innocent occasion? Shame, but fine again, for the same reason. He did that on whole GO’s expense, which is quite unjust for vast majority of GO guys?  Painful, but again - it is fine for the same reason.

Does everyone in your clan play totally fair? Is it only GO guys that play unfair sometimes? No? So, please fuck off an mind your own business. And report the abuse, cheats and exploits. Spitting on us will not make you more saint than you are already. Are you saint?

Lol fighting a losing corner much.

There is simply no way you can put having 100 accounts on 1 ip down to a mistake because of being such a large faction. Having 100 keys from one pc is planned, probably from the leadership and there's no way you can deny that. GO has had a reputation for a long time. It was one of the first things I learned about when I first started crpg almost a year ago. Certainly heard lots about it when I joined the forums in Jan.

Would certainly help explain how GO always had such incredible equipment in their sieges.

I'll say now, GK used to multi account share at one point (with maybe 3 accounts mainly for scouting). But we stopped as soon as the forum post from Meow about it came out, warning people to stop. I assume many others also did.

[Erasmas]

Having 100 keys from one pc is planned, probably from the leadership and there's no way you can deny that.

Read previous posts. But thank you for your support in the crusade.

[Thovex]

The Fallen Brigade is an extremely large clan. I know all about running large operations... Yet we apparently do a hell of a better job then your clan. The Fallen get shit talk in game or on the forumsabout our scumbag tactics, the Grey Order get shit talk in game and on the forums about a crapload of cheating and scumbag members... See the difference?

Knowing your members personally and being picky on the type of person you let in goes a long way for us to make sure that our roster if full of "nice guys" and not cheating jackasses. I fail to see how this is apparently so difficult for the GO to manage the clan. It is one thing to have a bad apple in the clan, and large clans may have several that "slipped through the cracks" but the GO apparently has whole bushels of bad apples which makes me question the quality of the character of your leadership in that clan, as well as the type of people you welcome in.

The Grey Order makes the news on cRPG literally every month sometimes multiple times a month for exploitation, cheating and deliberately toeing the line. You earned every bit of the reputation you have now.

So in the famous words of one of your members...
Deal with it.

I think to be honest since your a NA player/admin that you hardly know any shit about Grey Order than you think besides rumors from other clans and your own clan.

When I was a templar I always thought Druzhina was the bad guys because everyone else thought so as well, but sadly I knew no better, once I did leave Fallens and said Hi to DRZ I met these guys as extremely reliable and cool/nice guys, while in past I always hated them for no reason, which is probably the exact same thing you have now ToD.

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PS. Some NA admins are terrible, Risen checked out the NA server and the admins are TA'ing and telling us to 'Deal with it.'

[Tears of Destiny]

I play on EU often, and I don't hate Grey order. I am just saying that The Fallen get caught far less then Greys do, and that is pretty much fact when you read how often they get brought up on the forums.

As for the Admins, I want names or you are full of shit.

The only clan I disliked as a whole was ATS due to how they usually treated me. Nowadays though I don't really care.

[Thovex]

I play on EU often, and I don't hate Grey order. I am just saying that The Fallen get caught far less then Greys do, and that is pretty much fact when you read how often they get brought up on the forums.

As for the Admins, I want names or you are full of shit.

Poophammer USA lol, was couple more but I forgot names.

Also you saying Fallen is doing it but just didn't get caught yet? 

[v/onMega]

@ Grey Order:

Obviously knowing that ppl. in your faction cheat (Harpag admits it), is as good as cheating by yourself.....

Who profits?

Grey Order, so basiclly errbody now trying to explain things.

It might be (which I totally doubt) the minority is exploiting and cheating...okay...but now tell me....

Who had the profit? You didnt see the troops and gold....or the perfectly well timed movements etc. etc.?

The majority had the profit...in this special case GreyOrder (picking you now, but be sure I know there is other clans doing it)

I can freaggin recall Grey Order bragging about their strength etc. This makes it even more ridiciolus....


The path of the righteous man is something you life....

Not something you explain after you ve been fucking caught....

Fucking opportunists now act like saints and tell others that we re supposed to look into our stuff first...

NO REASON TO PLAY STRAT UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES.




@Gnjus:

Love that comment about 95% catholics etc.
Its true...and I know best since I partly have polish / east prusian ancestors.


And yes, there is clean clans, namly HRE for example.

You know why?

Because their leader fucking wants it to be clean.


Punishments cant be hard enuff....

[Tears of Destiny]

Poophammer USA lol.

Also you saying Fallen is doing it but just didn't get caught yet? 

So... Next time take screen shots/video and get the badmin removed if there is one.

As for Fallen abusing, no one really knows but us and the Devs if we are cheating or not, but obviously I am going to claim that we don't... But again... How many times do GO members pop up on the forums in trouble? Theyhave a reputation for having more troublemakers then most because they show up more often on the forums.

[Keshian]

We all thank him for showing us our wrong doings and leading us back on the path to righteousness! Without him we would all still be the scumbags we were back then.

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True, Farmer_Nate is the Saint of the NA community (except for the ban for autoblocking, and temp bans for racism, tking, etc.).  Without him telling us how we should play we too would be as cheat-ridden as the EU community.  Thank you farmer_Nate. 

[Tears of Destiny]

Farmer nate was banned for autoblocking?! Ahahahahahaha omgcantbreatheimdying

[Mannhammer]

When I was a templar I always thought Druzhina was the bad guys because everyone else thought so as well, but sadly I knew no better, once I did leave Fallens and said Hi to DRZ I met these guys as extremely reliable and cool/nice guys, while in past I always hated them for no reason, which is probably the exact same thing you have now ToD.

I'm sure the DRZ guys are great in person. But when a DRZ member is giving tips on how to bypass the rules in this very thread it certainly does reinforce their negative reputation.