What average americans in the 19th century were thinking
if white and poor: please don't send me to die for rich and white
if black: this is literally the worst state of existence
if rich and white (in south): please send poor white people to die so i can stay rich based on the worst state of existence for others
north: abolitionism is natural law (basic enlightenment principles), i'm off to work at the factory
south: welp i have no money, job, literacy, or voting rights because i live in an aristocracy, and probably starving to death because of no economy, what's the fastest way north?
Tugboat, you were a jerk to Huey so I was a jerk to you, and I felt you were fundamentally misrepresenting the attitudes of 1860s america. It had nothing to do with small government and states rights, southern fatcats were just sending people to die to keep slaves. This was good if you were wealthy, a death sentence if you were poor. Trying to spin this any other way is revisionist, which is toxic for our national identity. I don't even care THAT much, but calling someone a dumb teenager with no place to speak because he's ignorant is just being a dick, and you obviously crumble when someone gives it back.
Ultimately, this is all irrelevant to adminning cRPG servers, because god knows when I go on siege which I do often now, there are no admins and people griefing, teamkilling, spamming chat, etc, all of which I handle without a second thought.
Understandably people will cringe at someone with NA Admin under their username shit posting, trolling, being racist, or posting porn or something, but all I did was call you out for sounding like a traitor sympathizer, and these forums tend to be a breeding ground for hate mongering, enough that I have considered reporting threads to the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the American Civil Liberties Union on multiple occassions. I let Europeans wallow in their neo-YMCA until radical right wing parties inevitably sweep over the continent once the EU collapses.
edit: in case you don't get it, saying common people supported the CSA, aka that it was a populist movement, and Huey is wrong for saying his state would never support CSA, is historical revisionism. That's my point. It wasn't popular. All it meant for the regular person was suffering and war for rich people's benefit.