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Re: [NA] Smoothrich
« Reply #255 on: August 21, 2012, 05:40:10 pm »
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I'm still a little baffled people think they are somehow doing themselves a favor by holding little balls of negativity and hate inside themselves for strangers; especially strangers who have no genuine idea of who they are or that they exist.  Trust me, you'll do yourself a bigger favor by letting go of that negativity and hate. 
You aren't hurting me.  You're hurting yourself. 

I think that's what a lot of people fail to realize.

Ain't you the dead guy?
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Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #256 on: August 28, 2012, 10:24:40 am »
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If you want to read the full discussion you can check it on the NA Allstars thread pages 82 and 83. I proposed a fun north vs. south battle now that the votes were over and proposed that California could be on the side of the south to help balance things out since both New York and California had strong players. This sparks a very brief historical debate, where I agree that the leadership of California and the leadership of the south were at odds but what the average citizen wanted back then was the same and had nothing to do with slavery.

Smooth then goes off on a tirade where he personally insults me and drops racial slurs while at the same time calling me a racist.

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No, it wasn't.  You are a traitor revisionist and sympathizer, and thus a disgusting human being with no moral or ethic compass, a failed education, and are probably a racist. 

Let us quote the famous "Cornerstone Speech" of the Vice-President of the traitor States of America, Alexander Stephens, laying out the true meaning of the Confederacy, a few weeks after the first states seceded.

"Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the black in spanish is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition."

And the brave traitor patriots who fought to preserve their freedom?

"The Twenty-Slave Law, passed by the traitor Congress on October 11, 1862, during the American Civil War (1861–1865), created an exemption to military conscription for the owners of twenty or more slaves. The law was controversial in much of the South, where it served to exacerbate certain social rifts and led to claims by drafted soldiers that they were fighting a "rich man's war.""

Also, the articles of the confederation outlawed any traitor states from ever seceding themselves.  Because Big Government is only ruining liberty and freedom when its stopping you from whipping friends to death in your cotton fields as you get rich off generations of despair, in an entrenched aristocracy that would make even Russian or Chinese serfs of the era shake their heads at the backwards Americans.

More freedom for the traitors?  How about the traitor Home Guard, the literal Gestapo of the south?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/traitor_Home_Guard  They went around dragging off Real Americans who possibly didn't want to be sent to the front lines for suicidal human wave charges by brave General Lee after living an already impoverished life in order to maintain the status quo of an absurd inequality in wealth and power.

Do you know how West Virgina was formed?  A region of poor, slaveless mountain farmers, part of the wealthiest, most slave owning state of the confederacy, realized that "Hey, we don't hate friends enough/get enough money from friends to be willing to be sent to die in human wave attacks for the next 5 years.  Fuck you Confederacy, we are making our own state and joining the Union"  Bless them.

I could go on, but you probably already have it ingrained in your mind, from your family, your uprbringing, your culture, your friends, and your seething hatred of the inferior black in spanish race, that the Confederacy was a popular movement founded in principles of freedom and liberty, unlatching themselves from an oppressive, overbearing federal government.

Well Tugboat.  You're wrong.

Why is a troll who everyone pretty much unanimously agrees does a terrible job allowed to stay as an admin? He doesn't enforce rules and he posts racist shit and personal attacks on forums? What's the deal?


Edit:   More racism and trolling from smooth in other forum

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Haha, like when you called Huey a 16 year old retard who doesn't realize that the GLORY of the south would or should empower California citizens to go lynch black in spanishs back in the 1860s?  Don't worry, I'm sure whatever state you're from kept that tradition alive long into the 20th century!
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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #257 on: August 28, 2012, 10:26:20 am »
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Just had to do it again, sorry for repeating myself.
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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #258 on: August 28, 2012, 10:26:44 am »
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I pretty much agree with him, the whole "it wasn't about slavery, it was about states rights" meme is pure historical revisionism. I wouldn't call people who suscribe to it racist necessarily. Just misinformed. Not really too unusual to salvage some type of honorable reason for a war that many people's ancestors died in.
Then again, I also agree with you that he shouldn't be an admin.
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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #259 on: August 28, 2012, 10:29:22 am »
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I pretty much agree with him, the whole "it wasn't about slavery, it was about states rights" meme is pure historical revisionism.
Then again, I also agree with you that he shouldn't be an admin.

I'm not saying it wasn't about slavery. He makes it seem like that in his post. The rich ran things, and the politicians. They cared about slavery. The average person wasn't rich enough to run a plantation themselves. The kids who were off dying in this war didn't. I was talking about the every day person in California and the South probably agreed on most fundamental things. I know the people running shit made it about racism, but the citizenry who supported the South didn't want Uncle Sam meddling in their business.

Anyways that's not the point. The point is he is okay with trolling and using racial slurs on the official CRPG forums. That's not okay. When you are a moderator you should conduct yourself in a professional civil manner and not act that way.

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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #260 on: August 28, 2012, 10:33:11 am »
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Of course, he's a fucking goon before anything else, i.e the bottom of the barrel of the internet, along with 4chan and other likeminded trolls. His statements on literaly anything can't be taken seriously, because he is an antagonistic contrarian cunt who will say anything to piss off other people then pretend it makes him morally superior.
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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #261 on: August 28, 2012, 10:46:51 am »
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inb4 hurr i troled u, u mad, y no taek joke
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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #262 on: August 28, 2012, 10:53:43 am »
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inb4 hurr i troled u, u mad, y no taek joke

Nah it'll be a long winded passive aggressive comment mixed in with unfounded allegations about me being a traitor revisionist, subtle racism, and typed with just enough pretentious language and sarcasm to get some people to pretend to agree with him out of amusement.

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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #263 on: August 28, 2012, 11:04:37 am »
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Hey man, racism is what makes smoothrich special and cuddly!
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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #264 on: August 28, 2012, 11:05:34 am »
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THis is good drama material, somewhere near "communism-fascism comparison" in the ladder.  Need to get pop-corns 8-)

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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #265 on: August 28, 2012, 11:23:42 am »
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Oh the silly NA drama!

Smoothrich is a great admin. We need more Smoothriches. This topic is a superb example of why! Drama entertains me more than cRPG!

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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #266 on: August 28, 2012, 11:24:34 am »
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I only gave it to you with such ferocity because you called Huey an uneducated, ignorant child because even though he is a minority living in California, he shouldn't DARE speak out against the glory of the CSA as seen in California's eyes.  You said he didn't know enough about history to hold his arguments, so I went ahead and used cited, primary sources of the era to paint an example of the regional divides in Californian sentiment towards teh confederacy (they thought it was shit unless they owned slaves already) and just how generally bad the CSA was, because I agreed with Huey.

You went ahead and said "..it really wasn't about slavery.. it was states rights..".  You deserve everything you get once you say that, for the sake of the 800,000 dead americans in the civil war, and the untold millions of blacks who have had their lives ruined for hundreds, hundreds of years because of the institution of slavery.

If being AGAINST SLAVERY is reasons for me to be deadminned, then deadmin me.  Everything I do, I do for my country and my people.

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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #267 on: August 28, 2012, 11:36:34 am »
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Maybe not now but back in the day they were a frontier state who didn't want big government meddling in their business. If they had had a proper army and war infrastructure they might have.

If you look at history, democrats were actually the opposition party at the time. The republican party back then was the more progressive party.

You have to look at historic and cultural context.

I'm sorry but aren't you like 16 years old Huey? I'm not hating.. I'm just not sure you're the type of person with the insight or historical knowledge to be able to say whether or not California during the time of the civil war could have been swayed to be on the side of the South. It's a very complex issue, and I'm pretty sure no one here really knows all the ins and outs of it.

I merely said that California should be on the South side since New York is so stacked. California is also stacked, and a lot of the southern states are hurting for good dudes. California also has a lot of players so I think it'd be balanced.

Don't see where he's calling him a retard or even mentions huey being a minority.

He does call him out on his age but.. very mildly.
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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #268 on: August 28, 2012, 11:39:58 am »
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I only gave it to you with such ferocity because you called Huey an uneducated, ignorant child because even though he is a minority living in California, he shouldn't DARE speak out against the glory of the CSA as seen in California's eyes.  You said he didn't know enough about history to hold his arguments, so I went ahead and used cited, primary sources of the era to paint an example of the regional divides in Californian sentiment towards teh confederacy (they thought it was shit unless they owned slaves already) and just how generally bad the CSA was, because I agreed with Huey.

You went ahead and said "..it really wasn't about slavery.. it was states rights..".  You deserve everything you get once you say that, for the sake of the 800,000 dead americans in the civil war, and the untold millions of blacks who have had their lives ruined for hundreds, hundreds of years because of the institution of slavery.

If being AGAINST SLAVERY is reasons for me to be deadminned, then deadmin me.  Everything I do, I do for my country and my people.

No masters, no regrets.  Freedom of speech, of expression, and since the Union won the civil war, freedom of you know.. actually existing.

Have you not heard of context, Smooth? I was talking about what the average citizen cared about, not about what the politicians or people running the states wanted. I even said this explicitly when I began to the discussion with Huey, and I only mentioned Huey's age because HOW THE FUCK CAN A 17 YEAR OLD KID SPEAK FOR A BUNCH OF POOR PROSPECTORS AND FARMERS AND MERCHANTS FROM THE 1800S WHEN HE ISNT EVEN TWO DECADES OLD.

You need to have your admin powers revoked. You are a hapless troll and clearly have emotional problems of some fashion

Modify: and what the fuck does my point have to do with playing down those who lost their lives in the war? You are a fool and don't have the maturity, wisdom, or intelligence to be a mod that actually has to make mature informed decisions about things.

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Re: Why is Smoothrich still an admin?
« Reply #269 on: August 28, 2012, 11:40:47 am »
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He is #1 admin.

So smooth.