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Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« on: September 24, 2011, 09:37:17 am »
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Banner balance seems very weak on the official servers.  Instead of the occasional odd man out, more than half the matches 1/3 - 1/2 my clan is put on opposite team. This really makes it a pain when wanting to play as a clan.

What is the state of BB on the servers and can it be 'increased'  (thought I remember reading there are varying levels of it)

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2011, 10:49:08 am »
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Wrong forum buddy

Also banner balance is always set to on
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 04:37:19 pm »
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Wrong forum buddy

Also banner balance is always set to on

Tydeus did turn banner balance off for a few maps yesterday, maybe he was playing when it was off.

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 05:31:35 pm »
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Bannerbalance is not working correctly for the last month or so, as about a third of my clan is usually on the other team. Not much we can do though.

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 10:56:03 pm »
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I noticed Banner Balance working perfectly after the steam sale, what with ATS/Chaos/DL/LL all being on one team, and the other team having 4-5 brand new LLJK players and the rest pretty obviously peasants from the steam sale.  It's not like it didn't turn into a horrific slaughter round after round or anything
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 10:57:01 pm »
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Can any devs shed light on this please?

I thought I remembered seeing someone post about EU servers half of them being BB on and Half off, is this the case for NA official servers as well?

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011, 10:59:02 pm »
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Can any devs shed light on this please?

I thought I remembered seeing someone post about EU servers half of them being BB on and Half off, is this the case for NA official servers as well?

I assure you that it is on this very moment. It is the very first thing I check when I log in after checking to make sure it takes 5 wins for a round.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 11:18:16 pm »
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Haven't seen a problem with banner balance.  The thing is, it's not supposed to be perfect 100% of the time, otherwise stacking becomes an enormous issue.  I like it as it is right now, with everyone in the FCC on one team and Cyranule on the other one.  See?  Balance.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 09:02:36 pm »
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I noticed Banner Balance working perfectly after the steam sale, what with ATS/Chaos/DL/LL all being on one team, and the other team having 4-5 brand new LLJK players and the rest pretty obviously peasants from the steam sale. 

Working as intended, the way it should always be.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2011, 09:09:13 pm »
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I noticed Banner Balance working perfectly after the steam sale, what with ATS/Chaos/DL/LL all being on one team, and the other team having 4-5 brand new LLJK players and the rest pretty obviously peasants from the steam sale.  It's not like it didn't turn into a horrific slaughter round after round or anything

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2011, 05:21:48 am »
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Been feeling this too -- getting tossed onto another team after the first round even though there are only like 4 of us out of 80 using the same banner.  That was just like an hour ago on NA_CRPG_2.  Talking round 2+ here, too.

I guess the question is more for the devs: "is banner balance still working properly?  Can someone check?"  I understand that in some cases it must be balancing on weight of gear more than banners but sometimes we end up separated and it doesn't seem to make sense as to why.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2011, 07:39:56 am »
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bump this is getting annoying.  it either doesnt do a good enough job of putting banners together or it stacks all the clans together vs pug team

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2011, 12:41:28 pm »
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That too.

Ideally, "banner balance" should alternate banners on teams, especially for the larger groups.

For example...

8 people are using banner #1
It puts all of them on Team A.

5 people are using banner #2
It puts all of them on Team B.

4 people are using banner #3.
Team A is still overweighted compared to team B, so these people all go to team B.
(etc)

So basically sort players by banner type, in order of which banner has the most numbers, then use weight to fill out the teams, but guaranteeing that the two biggest banners have to go head to head.

Currently it will sometimes put all the biggest banners on the same team.  So you end up with a team that has 8 DL, 5 NH and 4 CHAOS all on the same team while team B consists entirely of random unclanned people.  It should have been 8 DL vs 5 NH and 4 CHAOS or something like that, so the larger banner groups don't end up all on the same team.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2011, 04:29:11 pm »
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That too.

Ideally, "banner balance" should alternate banners on teams, especially for the larger groups.

For example...

8 people are using banner #1
It puts all of them on Team A.

5 people are using banner #2
It puts all of them on Team B.

4 people are using banner #3.
Team A is still overweighted compared to team B, so these people all go to team B.
(etc)

So basically sort players by banner type, in order of which banner has the most numbers, then use weight to fill out the teams, but guaranteeing that the two biggest banners have to go head to head.

Currently it will sometimes put all the biggest banners on the same team.  So you end up with a team that has 8 DL, 5 NH and 4 CHAOS all on the same team while team B consists entirely of random unclanned people.  It should have been 8 DL vs 5 NH and 4 CHAOS or something like that, so the larger banner groups don't end up all on the same team.
+100

Banner balance is fail and should be removed until a proper auto balance get worked on

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2011, 05:29:04 pm »
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and should be removed until a proper auto balance get worked on

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