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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2011, 11:04:39 pm »
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Anders we all knows that crpg have tons more dedicated players in clans than public ,  hence my comment about looms and massive players type : like cav or tons of range , 

 Cant access my char page at my work  but im close to 4:1 kd as far as i remember :)

Suck more so that you get auto balanced onto the teams that win.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2011, 12:21:36 am »
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it sends shitties over to the losing team to pad the numbers earlier in the round so that doesn't work either
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2011, 12:43:14 am »
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it sends shitties over to the losing team to pad the numbers earlier in the round so that doesn't work either

exactly , quality has always been better than quantity IMO (beside the rare cases where balance hand down some sweet justice)

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2011, 12:48:52 am »
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Um balb, you have 2 accounts?.......
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2011, 12:56:04 am »
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Um balb, you have 2 accounts?.......


yeah i do , i forgot to stop using orginal one at work :\  , my bad

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2011, 12:56:55 am »
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yeah i do , i forgot to stop using orginal one at work :\  , my bad

That's....uh punishable..... you should, uh delete the old one or something.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2011, 01:13:31 am »
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Yes, yes it does.  Any game mode that rewards a team based on its performance and requires 20+ ppl per team, revolves around clans teams.

If you dont want to play with a team or clan, go back to battle or DM/duel.

Fixed that for ya.

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2011, 01:34:40 am »
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That would explain a lot actually.  Now I have performance anxiety  :shock:

Lol, so basically we should leave people maimed, mangled and mortally wounded for others to finish off heh

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2011, 08:59:24 am »
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2011, 10:04:20 am »
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What it does is you are balanced FIRST by you KDR that you see on the site below your name. Then it attempts to put all banners on the same team provided it doesn't break the KDR balancer.
I don't think KDR should be the priority.  Pretty frequently, that's what screws it up.

Common team balance --

Team A:
Loomcrutch McSpamswinger, 30-5
Solodouche deTincan, 28-5
...and a bunch of random noobs averaging 2 kills and 5 deaths.

Team B:
A far more organized group of people with fewer major statwhores.


The problem is that Loomcrutch and his buddy, Solodouche, always break away from the pack right off and go different directions, flanking and generally killing the bottom rung of the other team.  Their KDR looks impressive but their killing sprees only last until they run into a group of 5 from the Teamplayer Clan, and probably get shot in the face from 30 meters by a crossbow.  Essentially their statwhoring looks impressive, but has little real impact on the battle, and is preventing Team A from getting any actual team players who would help the team actually win.


In summary, balancing by KDR should not be the priority, and I suspect it often does more harm than good.  It should be *a* factor but not the main one.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2011, 02:29:58 pm »
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It's the only factor that the game can record easily. Equipment can change round to round, but banner and KDR don't.

If you can think of a better way please tell them! I'm SURE they'd like to hear it.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2011, 03:18:08 pm »
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It's the only factor that the game can record easily. Equipment can change round to round, but banner and KDR don't.

If you can think of a better way please tell them! I'm SURE they'd like to hear it.

Round win/loss%.  If they can keep track of rounds you win and lose this would be the best indicator of contribution to your team.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2011, 03:23:59 pm »
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Round win/loss%.  If they can keep track of rounds you win and lose this would be the best indicator of contribution to your team.

Good idea.
Can The stats be tracked or recorded easily? If so, then attempt to do it.
Otherwise, it's a novel concept.
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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2011, 04:33:24 pm »
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I think you assume that i dont want to play with a team, we always say this at my work : dont assume you make a ASS of U and ME 

In Siege i play as a team , but you cant do shit with pubbies when clans have TS and the armor weapons heirlooms advantage
You should just join DL. We can always use more shielders :D

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Re: Bannerbalance on official NA servers?
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2011, 05:19:06 pm »
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Nothing is more fun than 5 Chaos guys balanced against 15 pubbies  :twisted:

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