Bannerbalance on official NA servers?

[Lt_Anders]

Sigh so much fail.

The balancer actually has 2 balancers working when banner balance is on.(I've Heard this from devs but can't quote the source, sorry)

What it does is you are balanced FIRST by you KDR that you see on the site below your name. Then it attempts to put all banners on the same team provided it doesn't break the KDR balancer.

Thus if you play siege 100% and never battle, your KDR is 0:0. If you play battle all the time you have a dynamic kdr(as every map it is changed, though generally not much). THis means that when it does the siege KDR balancer, you get swapped because of that.
(Note: Don't know if things have changed, but this is how it worked before)

[Tears of Destiny]

Then I guess starting a month or so ago, the KDRs of clans have significantly altered for I am noticing them being split up in larger chunks then normal. Before it was just one or two, but now it seems like a third or more is always on the other side.

[balbaroth]

Im not against Balance so to speak im against stupid and arbitrary balance , if i dont get spec after after the first round , im 95% against clans ALL THE TIME , because of my high KDR , you get the chance to play with 2-3 more of your clan mates ,

you think i enjoy fighting a bunch of people that has TS and full of heirlooms and archers\cav while im stuck with the pubbies getting slaughtered and rounds ending up 5-0 ( battle ) or 3-0 (siege attacker)

   That is why the banner balance has to be removed until its get reworked

            Banner balance should be renamed : Op balance

[Oberyn]

Solution: use their banner XD
I feel ya though, this seems to happen a lot. Isn't actual ingame KD/R taken into account as well? I see people getting switched a lot when they're on top of the scoreboard.

[balbaroth]

Solution: use their banner XD
I feel ya though, this seems to happen a lot. Isn't actual ingame KD/R taken into account as well? I see people getting switched a lot when they're on top of the scoreboard.

using their banner is just a workaround , you like putting the dust below the carpet ? i sure dont   

         im most of the time on top of the board and i only get switched when someone on the other team with decent kdr goes spec or leave game
 
(after first round balance that is)

Edit : Oberyn, that is one sexy avatar!

[Lt_Anders]

Solution: use their banner XD
I feel ya though, this seems to happen a lot. Isn't actual ingame KD/R taken into account as well? I see people getting switched a lot when they're on top of the scoreboard.

Rarely in battle. Once the Initial First round is done, small changes like that are very rare.
Siege on the other hand, yes it WILL throw you off.
(IE: Occitan was playing in full plate etc and just STOMPING in the Kills department. Then finally the game said ok you guys good, have fun and put all occitan and some other  vs a team that outnumbered them by close to 15 players, with DL on that Team. Occitan lost, pretty damn quick).

Also People aren't retiring, so the people who don't retire keep their KD's while those who Retire(or respec) get them reset back to 0. So I have propensity to be swapped as I hate the  lvl 31+ players and always retire while several clan mates are going for their lvl 35 builds.

[Panoply]

We are all here for the amusement of the almighty Autobalance.

Who are we to question its judgement? We must trust in its ultimate benevolence, or at least in its sense of humour, for it is not the place of our feeble minds to discern its intent. The Autobalance works in mysterious ways.

I implore you all to appease our seemingly fickle, but infinitely wise, Autobalance, by sacrificing peasants and stray horses. This thread serves only to anger its holy Balanceness... so guard well against its wrath...

"Teams are not fair enough to justify a multiplier."

[Digglez]

Im not against Balance so to speak im against stupid and arbitrary balance , if i dont get spec after after the first round , im 95% against clans ALL THE TIME , because of my high KDR , you get the chance to play with 2-3 more of your clan mates ,

you think i enjoy fighting a bunch of people that has TS and full of heirlooms and archers\cav while im stuck with the pubbies getting slaughtered and rounds ending up 5-0 ( battle ) or 3-0 (siege attacker)

   That is why the banner balance has to be removed until its get reworked

            Banner balance should be renamed : Op balance

get a clan.  Banner balance is especially key for a game mode like siege that requires organization & teamwork.  Devs should not cater to pugs in a game & mode thats clearly teamwork based.


You're welcome to hop into our Vent since you wear Huscarl helm and mail armor.  And always fighting the uphill battles is probably what keeps you in tip top shape skill wise.

[balbaroth]

get a clan.  Banner balance is especially key for a game mode like siege that requires organization & teamwork.  Devs should not cater to pugs in a game & mode thats clearly teamwork based.


You're welcome to hop into our Vent since you wear Huscarl helm and mail armor.  And always fighting the uphill battles is probably what keeps you in tip top shape skill wise.

Digglez the public mode doesnt evolve around clans , what you said make perfect sense for Strategus tho 

[Digglez]

Digglez the public mode doesnt evolve around clans , what you said make perfect sense for Strategus tho

Yes, yes it does.  Any game mode that rewards a team based on its performance and requires 20+ ppl per team, revolves around clans.

If you dont want to play with a team or clan, go back to battle or DM/duel.

[balbaroth]

I think you assume that i dont want to play with a team, we always say this at my work : dont assume you make a ASS of U and ME 

In Siege i play as a team , but you cant do shit with pubbies when clans have TS and the armor weapons heirlooms advantage

[Thucydides]

thats what you get for being good.

[Lt_Anders]

I think you assume that i dont want to play with a team, we always say this at my work : dont assume you make a ASS of U and ME 

In Siege i play as a team , but you cant do shit with pubbies when clans have TS and the armor weapons heirlooms advantage

Pubs have heirlooms(you yourself are a pub).
But the TS, which auto balance can't take into effect, is the big difference between clans and pubs. Instant Communiction/ghosting/derision, blah where as pubs have to use in game.

(Oh that phrase is like EVERYWHERE. BTW balb, what's you KDR that the game shows underneath your character page. Mine is right now 5:16 cause i just retired.)

[balbaroth]

Pubs have heirlooms(you yourself are a pub).
But the TS, which auto balance can't take into effect, is the big difference between clans and pubs. Instant Communiction/ghosting/derision, blah where as pubs have to use in game.

(Oh that phrase is like EVERYWHERE. BTW balb, what's you KDR that the game shows underneath your character page. Mine is right now 5:16 cause i just retired.)

Anders we all knows that crpg have tons more dedicated players in clans than public ,  hence my comment about looms and massive players type : like cav or tons of range , 

 Cant access my char page at my work  but im close to 4:1 kd as far as i remember

[MrShine]

The balancer actually has 2 balancers working when banner balance is on.(I've Heard this from devs but can't quote the source, sorry)

What it does is you are balanced FIRST by you KDR that you see on the site below your name. Then it attempts to put all banners on the same team provided it doesn't break the KDR balancer.

That would explain a lot actually.  Now I have performance anxiety