[Cross-Clan EU Unit] The Cult of Mithras - Wednesdays at 18.30 UTC?

[Tristan]

@ Balrogbaru: No, not the person, the amount of persons. Any who I am still not convinced that agi>str in formation fighting, but I seem to be outnumbered.

Edit: Redundant rambling takne out.

[Tristan]

Changed the helmet to blue arena helmet.

[Casimir]

[Tristan]

Casimir suggested light lance as polearm for shielders because of reach.

What do you other guys think?

[Tomas_of_Miles]

Speed 87 is faster than long spear... I don't see why we couldn't give it a go.

[Tristan]

It seems a bit slow and can't be sheated.

Awlpike seems to be the best length, speed and dam wise but is very expensive.

However Red tassel > War spear imo.

[Casimir]

this is for the hoplites. Obviously as I discussed with tristan the unsheathable nature makes it a bit annoying and its not great at close ranges. However when used in conjunction with large numbers and with 2h's and polearms supporting i don't see why this wouldn't work.


Thoughts?

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[Tristan]

It looks awesome though

[Tennenoth]

Naturally sign me up for this, been a little "away" for the last couple of days.

With regards to Wednesday, I can't do that, I normally work till late.

Also, I don't think that equipment should be so strict, surely you want everyone fighting at their best, which would mean using the equipment that they feel comfortable wearing etc in order have the best outcomes of the teamwork, no good shoving someone who normally runs around quickly in heavier armour than they're used to and vice versa, a heavy armoured guy who knows when the strikes will bounce and when they will not and then have then wearing light armour where the attacks then go straight through and cut their arm off. Please correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick, i'm not really all that clued up with this as of yet and it's a little late, i'll get more information when I get back from uni later today.

EDIT: Also, I see you're not using archers in this squad thing, i'll be sitting this out then if that's the case, skirmishing with archers was always a good tactic, allowing them to run back behind their allies as the enemy attempts to engage so hopefully they get caught out, always works well with a cav charge though, more so since they're faster. Easy in theory of course

[Tristan]

Also, I don't think that equipment should be so strict, surely you want everyone fighting at their best, which would mean using the equipment that they feel comfortable wearing etc in order have the best outcomes of the teamwork, no good shoving someone who normally runs around quickly in heavier armour than they're used to and vice versa, a heavy armoured guy who knows when the strikes will bounce and when they will not and then have then wearing light armour where the attacks then go straight through and cut their arm off. Please correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick, i'm not really all that clued up with this as of yet and it's a little late, i'll get more information when I get back from uni later today.

As such you are right. The original goal was pretty large. Basically discover the best unit tactics in cRPG. And while you are right, that any clan would want each player at his best, this requires to look beyond what people "find fun" or are "used to play" and look at what does "they need to play" in order to be most effective.
Only after such trials can clans adapt it into what they can use.

What you are saying is much in line what Balrog is looking for. But honestly that is actually within a clans domain to find the best tactics with resources available. What I am trying to do here is to command what resources we have available.

[Casimir]

tenne, show us your moves.

[Tristan]

EDIT: Also, I see you're not using archers in this squad thing, i'll be sitting this out then if that's the case, skirmishing with archers was always a good tactic, allowing them to run back behind their allies as the enemy attempts to engage so hopefully they get caught out, always works well with a cav charge though, more so since they're faster. Easy in theory of course

Ofcourse you are right. And I honestly think that archers are welcome. They are just not so involved in the actual unit because, as you say, they skirmish, hence it would be a bit boring for you to work with the unit manoeuvrings?  I might be wrong.

3 archers per 10 in the unit would not be off.

[Tristan]

I opened up for skirmishing ranged.

[RamsesXXIIX]

Light lance is a very potent weapon for hoplites - I've been using it quite alot in strat with great effect. Combine it with heavy armor and Huscarl shield, and you have a long-range tank. Excellent for teamwork.

Anyway, the weapons we find here are merely recommendations as I see, and if someone is more potent with different weapons and is not destroying the formation, we should be allowed to use his weaponry.

Anyway, good luck with wednesday - I'll be going soon.

[Tristan]

I played around with the light lance yesterday and it work well. It is more potent than I thought.