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What changes would you like more?

Forcefield back
Bigger width of shields back
Polearms with tag shield bonus should be unbalanced and slower because of their length
Less accuracy for ranged
Make all swords over 105 length use a polearm thrust animation
Increase 1h cut damage
More HP for shields
Make shields have less weight
Make shield skill every 2 levels instead of 3
Increase the angels of attack for 1h
Make all shields take only one slot

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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2011, 11:03:50 am »
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I would like to see increased hp and armor, but greatly reduced shield speed.

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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2011, 01:24:56 pm »
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1h is fine. My only wish is that they increase the cut damage of the long Espada. The long Espada is already a good weapon and +3 it's actually the best 1h IMO, but the top tier 2h weapons are much deadlier without heirloom. Just give it +1 (or maybe +2) cut damage and everyting is fine. You pay the most for it, so you want the best. 
But that's just a suggestion that has nothing to do with this topic. 1h is the most balanced class of the game atm.
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2011, 01:30:12 pm »
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wait what? one of the votes is boosting cut damage what do you mean? and i agree that cut domage should be boosted
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2011, 01:42:34 pm »
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You are biased towards 2h. Why do you want participate in this thread?

Tot flew around with a 1H and a shield not too long ago. His experience with it counts for something.
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2011, 01:46:39 pm »
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Tot flew around with a 1H and a shield not too long ago. His experience with it counts for something.

Hello friend, I always enjoy your posts, there are full of logic.
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2011, 01:47:20 pm »
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One of my main gripes with it is shield HP. I think that should be raised a fair amount. Shields get hacked to pieces incredibly quickly.

Otherwise I think it's fine.

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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2011, 01:52:46 pm »
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Because in this Poll I ask shielders and balancers about changes they would like to see and not such who direct profit from weak shielders like 2h users.
That would be your problem. If you're asking all shielders and balancers, you need to add all poll options. I know a lot of shielders who think shielders are very well balanced and wouldn't want it changed at all. So if you are really asking "shielders and balancers" give "shielders and balancers" freedom of speech. If not, nobody will take you seriously anyway. I know I don't :D
EDIT: Sorry, nobody is a false generalization. I really meant some people.
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2011, 02:06:31 pm »
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I would like to see increased hp and armor, but greatly reduced shield speed.

That'd be a massive nerf.
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2011, 02:14:34 pm »
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That'd be a massive nerf.

Yet happy to do it to horses  :wink:

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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2011, 02:23:01 pm »
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Yet happy to do it to horses  :wink:

I interpret your post as you failing to interpret several posts yet again and thus appearing as a retard.
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2011, 02:44:31 pm »
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Yet happy to do it to horses  :wink:

Why can't you just stop for once being a stupid moron. Unless you're trying to be funny, but you're not funny at all...

I would like to see increased hp and armor, but greatly reduced shield speed.

I usually pick my shields for their speed rating alone so this would be a huge nerf for me at least :(
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2011, 02:54:27 pm »
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Why can't you just stop for once being a stupid moron. Unless you're trying to be funny, but you're not funny at all...

Can say the same to you and xant each time you post in the cav threads.

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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2011, 02:55:54 pm »
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My fucked up cav build showed me one thing :

You can't be a shielder without dedicating yourself to it.

With 71 in 1h, a knightly heater shield, 6PS and an elite spammitar, I do worse than with any 2h I take on the ground with 1wpf...

Dedicated 1h may be a bit too fast, but I think dedicated 2h are just as fast, with better reach and damage.


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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2011, 03:01:57 pm »
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Possible ways or/and:
- Forcefield back

Well, that's not neccesery, huscalr's/heavy round shield gives quite good protetcion against ranged.
- Bigger width of shields back
Up. It's more about shield choice.

- More HP for shields (they should get broken by unbalanced axes not by simple 2h swords)
Maybe some shields needs some blancing between hit points and resistance, but I guess it won't happen soon, and it's not any kind of priority I guess.

- Make shields have less weight

That would make light equiped shileders with huscarls OP.

- Make shield skill every 2 levels instead of 3

There is significant difference between 6 and 7 lvl shield skill, imagine 15/21 build with 10 shield skill would take on his shield shitloads of hits.
 
- Increase the angels of attack for 1h

Yay with latest changes that devs made to the game mechanics that would lead to zillions of teamkills, with some good footwork and weapon with ~100 length you can compasate missing weapon reach comparing to 2h/pole, but it's not that easy, tho.

- Increase 1h cut damage across the board and lower pierce and blunt damage for that. That is very important because of silly armor and gauntlets looms with armor value around 80!

Well, from my own experience anything with less than 6PS is unplayable, 7PS is something that a shielder really need, with it you can quite easly kill whose "tincans".

- Make all shields take only one slot, that way 1h + huscarl shield + war spear would allow infantry to defend themselves.
There are pretty good 1 slot shields instead, it was good change to overall balance IMHO (making shields with weight over 8 2 slots).

Basiclly shielders are fine as they are now, other classes needs some more balancing, not 1H.
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Re: Buff 1h
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2011, 03:06:52 pm »
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Can say the same to you and xant each time you post in the cav threads.

When I post in a thread I have a point. You don't. Let's go over it so slowly that even narrow Overdriven mind can keep up.

Thread's name is buff 1h.
Darkfox posts in it, suggesting increased HP and armor and decreased shield speed. One assumes this is a buff suggestion.
I comment that it wouldn't be a buff at all, but a huge nerf.

You come in like a little retard, saying I am happy to nerf horses. How does this follow? It doesn't.

Even assuming this would be a "nerf 1h thread" (which the keen mind would notice it isn't) it makes no sense. How are these two things related? They aren't, except for a bitter Overdriven. Now go follow the link under my name and shut the fuck up before you're a little smarter.
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