End the bunny hopping madness

[_Sebastian_]

Very pointfull post Xant. 

What Gisbert said is true.
Crpg is going to be a melee heaven.

We are nerfed to much, because of these 13y old whinig melee-kids who got killed by an archer.
I agree, reload and shot while jumping isn't realistic and this nerf is fine.

But...
Dancing and bunny hopping tincans aren't realistic too.
If these guys would get a nerf too, then I'm lucky.
By the way; Cavalry schould loose HP, if they fall down from horses.

I think its time for an archey buff:
- lower the weight of the bows and quivers.
  No quiver with 24 arrows weigths about 5 kg, and no longbow weights 1,8 kg.
  (My 70-inch long and 90-pounds english warbow weights 600 grams and my quier with 24 medieval-arrows(each 50 grams) weights 1,5kg)
- Add a speedbonus for loomed bows like it was prepatch.
- Raise the time-window in which the bow is accurate.
- Raise the accuracy of the high tier bows a bit, especialy the longbow.
- Add a missile speed bonus for loomed arrows.(if it is possible)

Now ... the whine-kids can cry about my post

[Laufknoten]

Whiny archers whining about people being whiny about archery. Lol.

Now that they removed this BS, archery can maybe evolve into a respectable class.

[Oberyn]

Doubtfull, but hey, there's no such thing as respectable class. Except maybe peasants. Respectable = no danger to anyone XD.
The fact that it was implemented so fast leads me to believe it was already planned and in the works. I doubt my humble suggestion thread had that much of an effect tbh.

Incidentally Sebastian, I'd love to see you posting a video of yourself drawing a longbow while moving sideways and backwards. Considering the size of the weapon and the stance you have to take, I doubt it's possible. Then again I don't own a longbow, so maybe it is.

Anyways, like Gurnisson said, some sort of buff compensation wouldn't be out of place, but your suggestions are pretty ridiculous. No offense.

[cmp]

The fact that it was implemented so fast leads me to believe it was already planned and in the works.

Nope. I am that fast†.




†only when nerfing ranged and cavalry

[Ozwan]

I think its time for an archey buff:
- lower the weight of the bows and quivers.
  No quiver with 24 arrows weigths about 5 kg, and no longbow weights 1,8 kg.
  (My 70-inch long and 90-pounds english warbow weights 600 grams and my quier with 24 medieval-arrows(each 50 grams) weights 1,5kg)
- Add a speedbonus for loomed bows like it was prepatch.
- Raise the time-window in which the bow is accurate.
- Raise the accuracy of the high tier bows a bit, especialy the longbow.
- Add a missile speed bonus for loomed arrows.(if it is possible)

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[Jambi]

No problem, we will nerf cav to compensate. Thanks for bringing this up.

make is so no class can block / attack / draw / aim while/when jumping.

Give yourself a nerf devs.

[Jambi]

Very pointfull post Xant. 

What Gisbert said is true.
Crpg is going to be a melee heaven.

We are nerfed to much, because of these 13y old whinig melee-kids who got killed by an archer.
I agree, reload and shot while jumping isn't realistic and this nerf is fine.

But...
Dancing and bunny hopping tincans aren't realistic too.
If these guys would get a nerf too, then I'm lucky.
By the way; Cavalry schould loose HP, if they fall down from horses.

I think its time for an archey buff:
- lower the weight of the bows and quivers.
  No quiver with 24 arrows weigths about 5 kg, and no longbow weights 1,8 kg.
  (My 70-inch long and 90-pounds english warbow weights 600 grams and my quier with 24 medieval-arrows(each 50 grams) weights 1,5kg)
- Add a speedbonus for loomed bows like it was prepatch.
- Raise the time-window in which the bow is accurate.
- Raise the accuracy of the high tier bows a bit, especialy the longbow.
- Add a missile speed bonus for loomed arrows.(if it is possible)

Now ... the whine-kids can cry about my post

And reroll the arrows pickup how it was before.. its been broken for like ages now.

Ooh and nerf cav heirlooming too. They can actually spinstab from horseback, faster then i can draw my MW warbow

[Siboire]

I am an archer and im somehow pleased by the jump shot removal. On the other side, jump-side-swings or jump-stabs should be removed for all melee weapons. Only keep jump-overhead to destroy ladders or kill with "roof drop". That would bring a lot more realism in the same way as the removal of jump-shots.

[Tzar]

I am an archer and im somehow pleased by the jump shot removal. On the other side, jump-side-swings or jump-stabs should be removed for all melee weapons. Only keep jump-overhead to destroy ladders or kill with "roof drop". That would bring a lot more realism in the same way as the removal of jump-shots.

Jump shots where not removed cause of realism.

[Corrado_Decimo]

make is so no class can block / attack / draw / aim while/when jumping.

Give yourself a nerf devs.

i sense rage 

anyway i did some rounds with the thrower... well i really did shit without the bunnyhop throw... i'll need to raise ATH on it.. 

[Dezilagel]

Jump shots where not removed cause of realism.

Why are people not getting this?

[Corrado_Decimo]

I am an archer and im somehow pleased by the jump shot removal. On the other side, jump-side-swings or jump-stabs should be removed for all melee weapons. Only keep jump-overhead to destroy ladders or kill with "roof drop". That would bring a lot more realism in the same way as the removal of jump-shots.

uhm... i have a ornamental greatsword 122cm long... i tried and it's not difficult to jump forward and thrust... and i'm not a old veteran medieval soldier.

and comparing jump-shoot with a jump-stab is silly. you can jump-shoot to kite all day long in iWin mode... but is not the same as jump-thrust or jump-swing.

consider facts about siege. when you'll jump from a ladder you will not be able to counter the defenders waiting to slash mid-air people.

[Jambi]

i sense rage 

anyway i did some rounds with the thrower... well i really did shit without the bunnyhop throw... i'll need to raise ATH on it.. 

Same here... i was thinking about getting 7 PD instead of 6. But now im going Agi all the way. 18/27 way too go. As most 2 handers still outrun me now anyways, and kill me in 1 shot.

Nope not raging.

[Corrado_Decimo]

Same here... i was thinking about getting 7 PD instead of 6. But now im going Agi all the way. 18/27 way too go. As most 2 handers still outrun me now anyways, and kill me in 1 shot.

Nope not raging.

don't hurry imo... let's see how things will settle... maybe there will be a counterbalance about mid and heavy armor weight...

now for now, archers NEED protection from teammates. let's just play it a bit... feedback is a dish that must be server cold 

[Joxer]

uhm... i have a ornamental greatsword 122cm long... i tried and it's not difficult to jump forward and thrust... and i'm not a old veteran medieval soldier.

and comparing jump-shoot with a jump-stab is silly. you can jump-shoot to kite all day long in iWin mode... but is not the same as jump-thrust or jump-swing.

consider facts about siege. when you'll jump from a ladder you will not be able to counter the defenders waiting to slash mid-air people.

Trollollollooo try actually hitting something without killing yourself in the progress.