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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2011, 08:08:26 pm »
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I see you never draw a real bow...
It is possible to draw a bow while moving.

But I agree... drawing while jumping isnt realistic and if the devs are going to remove it,
then they have to disallow tincans to dance and run like hyperactive athletes.
Also the jump-attacks should been reduced by 50% in damage(you cant swing your weapon while jumping to do more damage), because of realism.

Actually plate armor is pretty light, flexible, and the weight is well distributed. Knights could vault jump onto horses, do cartwheels, among other "athletic feats". In other words, the game makes plate armor use more sluggish and less protective, than it is in reality.

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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2011, 08:18:41 pm »
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Jumping attacks with melee is suicide against anyone who isn't retarded or running away. And yes, that includes cav (at least with lance, probably more effective against 1h cav). If anyone is stupid enough to try and jump against me when I'm rushing headfirst towards them, all it does is put them in a situation where I know exactly where they're going to be, not unlike people who try to jump to dodge ranged. That being said, sure, take it away from melee's as well if that's the compensation archers want for losing their jump shot ability. It isn't an important part of anyone's melee repertoire anyways.
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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2011, 08:21:29 pm »
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I'd rather have a short sprint or leap, than a jump move.

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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2011, 08:37:39 pm »
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why don't u just rape us in the ass real hardly ? i think whole c-rpg community will be really glad to watch us getting raped in the ass ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yEb6HCG7ec

and if u want realism u should change the animation of crossbow too than.. for real .. they pull their bolts from their back, and they can turn around 360 degrees while reloading.. everyone carries a xbow shielders , horsemen, two handers, polearmdudes... everyone...
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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2011, 08:43:22 pm »
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I've killed a fair few people with my 2h

No you haven't lol

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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #50 on: September 15, 2011, 08:46:59 pm »
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Keep the jump slash for melee, it has nothing to do with this
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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2011, 08:47:15 pm »
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No you haven't lol

Haha when I was in duel servers for about 5 days straight when I first started playing my 2h  :P

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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #52 on: September 15, 2011, 08:48:38 pm »
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Haha when I was in duel servers for about 5 days straight when I first started playing my 2h  :P

You still didn't get any kills

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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #53 on: September 15, 2011, 08:53:45 pm »
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No matter how much I hate 8-9 athletics Nelo, I'm against this nerf. It's a bit unrealistic.. so?

The problem is rather that agi-archers seems to be the way to go atm. There is very few effective archer builds, and little flavor or difference between them.. As far as I understood the current situation..

If oberyn, who MOST PROBABLY sacrificed most of his athletics for riding, also wearing heavy-medium armor if I know him right, get's kited by an archer, that is only fair. Kiting in general is a very viable and clever tactic, and if an archer survives long enough that there are no one left who can chase him, that's just fine.
Archers don't have shields, archer's have crap melee defense options. Running is, and should be their best defense.

This suggestion will get a lot of +1 from str builds, cav and slow shielders.

(oh and if u let yourself be kited like an MMO mob, you are the retarded one.. I kite people myself all day long.)
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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2011, 09:11:46 pm »
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Yeah realism is a terrible reason for balance, I was just throwing it out there. This isn't really anything that bothers me personally, well it does, but not because I get kitted. Like I said above, I love people who try to jump out of the way when I go to lance them, it makes it very easy. And in any case even when dehorsed I have a shield, specifically because I hate archers so much.

And when you are pure melee and archers are kitting, how do you deal with them Thomek? There's really nothing else to do but run after them, dodge arrows and hope they misjudge a jump or stop running for a second. Unless of course you use a Ninja build that can outrun pretty much anything, even light armored archers.
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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2011, 09:21:51 pm »
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Against good archers I die or manage to close. xD but often I backstab them before they get a chance..

I won't lie, against good archers with high athletics the odds are on their side.. But I also carry some nasty mw snowflakes with 131 wpf and 6pt. They disrupt aim and running becomes a risky venture for them. Besides a headshot with snowflakes hurts so much they die.
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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2011, 09:25:36 pm »
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buff armor vs range, ITS THE ONLY SOLUTION

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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #57 on: September 15, 2011, 09:46:53 pm »
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I won't lie, against good archers with high athletics the odds are on their side.. But I also carry some nasty mw snowflakes with 131 wpf and 6pt. They disrupt aim and running becomes a risky venture for them. Besides a headshot with snowflakes hurts so much they die.

Throwing daggers, 1 PT 1 wpf, does wonder.
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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #58 on: September 15, 2011, 09:52:28 pm »
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cmp, to code:

[pseudocode] agent_player;draw_bow = true;input_key = space; agent_player: receive_dmg 9001. [/pseudocode]
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Re: End the bunny hopping madness
« Reply #59 on: September 15, 2011, 09:57:17 pm »
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If it's only for archers, then I don't care.

If it's for melee aswell, then as a ninja I must oppose this.

loading while jumping is just as realistic as swinging a melee weapons in the air and actually hurting someone other than yourself
Nerfing only archers because they found a way to adapt to the last nerf is not balancing, thats discrimination
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bring the jump mechanic into what it was originally meant to be: a way to get over obstructions
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