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Offline Varyag

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2011, 08:03:13 pm »
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Don't say that, or do you want even more 2h on the battlefield?

Lol I don't mind, I am arbalester. 2handers r easy  prey for me
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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2011, 08:18:37 pm »
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Lol I don't mind, I am arbalester. 2handers r easy  prey for me
Ah, you're arbalester, now I understand...  :twisted:
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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2011, 12:30:14 am »
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Well I'm going to give the sheilder a try, if i dont like it then there's always next gen. Maybe go for a thrower, that's the way i started c-rpg so might give it another try. Been changed alot since then though
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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2011, 02:20:24 pm »
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Duelist? 18-18
Battle? 21-15, 30-9

Currently I am running a 30-9 and let me tell you, its a big FU to all those 2h and polearm jacks in fully heirloomed armor.

lvl 30
30-9

4if
10ps
3shield
3athl
3wm

126 1h
25 pole

There are lots of tier 3 shields that are very effective, however keep in mind the two most important features to look at are shield speed and shield width. Your best weapon options are blunt or fast 1h, unless your good at timing......which you will need to learn quickly.

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2011, 09:00:17 am »
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Its just not anywhere near as good as it used to be.

It used to be stupidly overpowered, now shields are ok methinks.

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #35 on: September 15, 2011, 09:07:37 am »
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It used to be stupidly overpowered, now shields are ok methinks.

Off topic a little but one handed could do with a boost some how, shield with one hand is meh.

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #36 on: September 15, 2011, 09:10:41 am »
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Off topic a little but one handed could do with a boost some how, shield with one hand is meh.

Well duh... you put a sword in the other hand dummy :P
« Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 10:02:29 am by Siiem »

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #37 on: September 15, 2011, 10:08:55 am »
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.I did shielding in cRPG for 1.5 years, got quite legendary with it on EU servers,

..No varyag, you were never "legendary".. never even heard anyone say you were/are a good shielder.

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I think you are from the NA right? So you are not really familiar with Atze and Phyrex? Try duelling them for once, you will quickly learn why shields are quite useless nowadays.


Fucking crappy argument. Average shielders can't kill some of the best 2H players? Oh boy, surely this proves your point. You're even less likely to kill Atze or Phyrex without a shield than you are with one. And pretty much everyone who knows how shielding works has a better chance to kill them with 1h+shield than with 2h/polearms.

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As for the experienced players, forget about shield. Its just not worth anymore.

False.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 10:10:34 am by Xant »
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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #38 on: September 15, 2011, 01:48:30 pm »
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I lol'd. Dueling with Phyrex renders every class or build useless. However, ganking and backstabbing works with him quite well in battle.
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2011, 02:59:02 pm »
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Howdy ya'll! The time is nearing when a 1st gen noob retires to become a 2nd gen noob who can claim he's not. I am nearing that monumental stage  :D. Going to be playing as a 1h shielder as my 2nd gen build with the following equipment:

Warhammer, Scale Armor, Rus Splinterd greaves, leather gloves, nord fighter helmet (or something of equivelent weight), Shield (Don't know what one I'm going to stick with yet)

My Build I'm going to be using is below:

lvl 30
HP 63
STR 18
AGI 18

skills to attributes 2
IF 5
PS 6
Shield 6
Athletics 6
WM 6

1h 155



Just wondering if this is a good build/equipment combo to go for. Feel free to throw out suggestions or make fun of me for being a newb  :D

18/18 is a pretty solid build to start knowing how 1h shield works. i'd go for it.

about equip, my suggestion is to use better gloves and a lighter armor. you will have a slighty worse upkeep but a much better armor/weight ratio

example:

Scale Armor
weight: 11
body armor: 38
leg armor: 9
difficulty: 10

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Leather Gloves
weight: 0
body armor: 2

= 40 body and 9 legs total
= 11 weight total
= 4.816 gold total
= 385,28 upkeep total

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Studded Leather Coat
weight: 5
body armor: 30
leg armor: 10
difficulty: 8

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Scale Gauntlets
weight: 1
body armor: 8
difficulty: 12

= 38 body and 10 legs
= 5+(1x2 as hand armor)= 7 weight total
= 9.926 gold total
= 794.08 upkeep total
----------------------

so 4 kgs less for near the same armor amount (-2 body +1 legs) is really a better ratio. i notice a lot +/- 4 weight with even 6 athletics.

the upkeep is 400 golds higher... if you can deal with it, it's a better choice.

JUST don't heirloom the studded leather coat because is not worth it. the scale gauntlets instead are a good heirloom investment.

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2011, 08:40:45 pm »
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As a rather experienced shielder I'd suggest to test 21/15 build first, believe me that you'll feel the difference between 6 and 7 PS, especially when you're using weapons with cut damage, but with warhammer/steel pick you'll definatly need more agi, so 18/18 sounds fine if you're somehow experienced in playing as a shielder, if not you benefit more from extra damage since you'll won't have as much occasions to hit your opponent as a decent shielder.

About the EQ, you'll definatly need fast shield with shitloads of hit points, something like kite/heavy kite, heavy norman shiled. Others like kinghtly heater/kite shield wich are damn fast won't protect you good enough from ranged. Huscarl's round shiled is a bit too slow/heavy for playing with anything less then 21 agi (7 shiled skill). Elite cavalry and heavy round shield are also not bad choice.

Also remember that against good 2h player or in 1 vs 2 pole you'll loose in 90% of cases. Despite from what others are saying it's fun to play as shielder, well you don't have as much oportunites as 2h/pole but still you can try to outrange/spam and dueling with 1h without shield is much more funnier and harder then abusing 2h lolswords animations (no hard feelings guys, just sayin').
« Last Edit: September 15, 2011, 09:03:07 pm by Dalhi »

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #41 on: September 15, 2011, 08:46:03 pm »
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Also remember that against good 2h player or in 1 vs 2 pole you'll loose in 90% of cases.

Dalhi, don't lie to them! :o
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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #42 on: September 15, 2011, 08:52:31 pm »
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I think you are from the NA right? So you are not really familiar with Atze and Phyrex? Try duelling them for once, you will quickly learn why shields are quite useless nowadays.

Well, I agree on one thing: shielder is the best choice for noobs to kill other noobs. As for the experienced players, forget about shield. Its just not worth anymore.
Is this why Xant and Siiem went 1h+shield?

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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #43 on: September 15, 2011, 08:53:08 pm »
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Dalhi is a case that proves the rule  :D
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Re: 1h shield build
« Reply #44 on: September 15, 2011, 09:08:05 pm »
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Xant you noob.

I can confirm that Varyag WAS legendary. Back in the day there were only 2 heroes, Oberyn and Varyag. Both of them aboozed OP weapons to the max xD and had much higher levels and more money than the rest of us.

Varyag with his huscarl and 103(?) speed elite scimi with ghost range was impossible to block.. (for me)  He and Oberyn just dominated the servers for weeks on end.

Of course most people could not block properly back then, feints was the most advanced dueling trick, you could use a great axe in 1h mode from a horse, archers could become ridiculously deadly etc.. Was good times.
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